[L2Ork-dev] Pd-L2Ork 20230820 is now available

Linux Rouen Normandie linux.rouen at free.fr
Thu Aug 24 13:34:45 EDT 2023


Thank you! 😎
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Le 24/08/2023 à 16:51, Ico Bukvic a écrit :
> I just added a git commit for the fluid~ gain option and translation 
> of the K12 menu option. This should be available in the next release.
>
> Best,
> Ico
> -- 
> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
> Director, Creativity + Innovation
> Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD
> Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
> Virginia Tech
> Creative Technologies in Music
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> ico at vt.edu
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> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 9:06 AM Ico Bukvic <ico at vt.edu> wrote:
>
>     Looks like translation for the k12 mode in the File menu is
>     missing. It is the "undefined" option that is checked. When you
>     start with pd-l2ork-k12 and create the new patch, do you
>     immediately get k12 menu on the left side of the new patch?
>
>     This mode is for beginners, so it prevents access to more advanced
>     options and allows creation of only k12 objects. This is the
>     reason why it is still included.
>
>     For the abstractions where you see their name, this is because
>     pd-l2ork draws objects inside of the abstraction window *even* if
>     they are only partially visible, and then the frame on top of them
>     together with the abstraction name, whereas vanilla and purr-data
>     draw this in reverse (frame and name first, then objects, only if
>     they fully fit inside the frame), thus the abstraction names are
>     hidden by objects drawn inside the abstraction. You can always
>     simply hide the abstraction name. This is what this option is for.
>     Hope this helps.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Ico
>
>     -- 
>     Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
>     Director, Creativity + Innovation
>     Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
>
>     Virginia Tech
>     Creative Technologies in Music
>     School of Performing Arts – 0141
>     Blacksburg, VA 24061
>     (540) 231-6139
>     ico at vt.edu
>
>     ci.icat.vt.edu <http://ci.icat.vt.edu>
>     l2ork.icat.vt.edu <http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu>
>     ico.bukvic.net <http://ico.bukvic.net>
>
>     On Thu, Aug 24, 2023, 06:29 Linux Rouen Normandie
>     <linux.rouen at free.fr> wrote:
>
>         Hello Ico,
>         Thank you for your answers.
>         Please see my comments here below in my original mail awa the
>         2 attached screen captures.
>         Best,
>         Joseph
>         = = = = = = = = = =
>
>         Le 24/08/2023 à 06:25, Ico Bukvic a écrit :
>>         Hi Joseph,
>>         Please see my comments below.
>>         Best,
>>         Ico
>>
>>         -- 
>>         Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
>>         Director, Creativity + Innovation
>>         Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
>>
>>         Virginia Tech
>>         Creative Technologies in Music
>>         School of Performing Arts – 0141
>>         Blacksburg, VA 24061
>>         (540) 231-6139
>>         ico at vt.edu
>>
>>         ci.icat.vt.edu <http://ci.icat.vt.edu>
>>         l2ork.icat.vt.edu <http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu>
>>         ico.bukvic.net <http://ico.bukvic.net>
>>
>>         On Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 21:27 Linux Rouen Normandie
>>         <linux.rouen at free.fr> wrote:
>>
>>             Hello Ico,
>>
>>             Thank you for releasing Pd-L2Ork-full-20230820, here
>>             rev.8559baef-aarch64.deb.
>>             After downloading it from your web site, I just installed
>>             it on my Raspberry Pi 400 running under Raspberry Pi OS
>>             11 (Bullseye) 32-bit.
>>
>>             I really like your new 60-hz GUI.
>>             And it's still a little bit strange when you move back
>>             and forth between Pure Data (Tcl/Tk) and Pd-L2Ork / Purr
>>             Data (HTML5). From my user point of view, it would be
>>             very nice to have into one application all the best of them.
>>
>>             After a quick test, I have detected few issues of which:
>>             1- GEM errors in the console (I'm not a GEM user yet):
>>             """""
>>             GEM: image loading plugins: magick SGI STB jpeg tiff
>>             GEM: film loading plugins: MPEG3 aviplay gmerlin
>>             quicktime4linux
>>             GEM: image saving plugins: SGI STB jpeg magick tiff
>>             GEM: model loading plugins: OBJ
>>             /  error: [GEM:recordNDI] Please (re)install the NewTek
>>             NDI Runtimes to use this plugin.//
>>             //... click the link above to track it down, or click the
>>             'Find Last Error' item in the Edit menu.//
>>             / error:                need to find the library
>>             'libndi.so.4'
>>             GEM: video record plugins: QT4L V4L V4L2
>>             /  error: [GEM:videoNDI] Please (re)install the NewTek
>>             NDI Runtimes to use this plugin.//
>>             //  error:                need to find the library
>>             'libndi.so.4'//
>>             /GEM: video capture plugins: NDI dc1394 decklink v4l v4l2
>>             """""
>>
>>
>>         This is benign. It just says that you don't have support for
>>         some of the modules either because you don't have that device
>>         or supporting libraries, or both. You can ignore these.
>>
>>         A: Well, understood.
>>
>>
>>             2- [fluid~]
>>             """""
>>             error: fluid~: no method for 'gain'
>>             """""
>>             I have tested both Pd-L2Ork-20230820 and
>>             Purr-Data-2.19.3-20230725 with the same configuration on
>>             the same RPi with the same Audio/MIDI patch, Purr Data is
>>             okay but effectively no [gain( control with Pd-L2Ork.
>>
>>
>>         Will need to investigate when this feature was added and
>>         update my source. Should be a quick fix.
>>
>>         A: Good.
>>
>>
>>             3- Launching Pd-L2Ork K12 still open (only) Pd-L2-Ork.
>>             Is a dedicated K12 version still current ?
>>
>>
>>         You can now enable K12 mode in the File menu, or just show
>>         the M12 menu in the Put menu. That said, are you sure
>>         Pd-L2Ork starts in regular mode? Open a patch and see if the
>>         K12 menu is available.
>>
>>         A: In the File menu of both Pd-L2Ork Std and K12 there is a
>>         K12 Demos entry, see here attached screen capture, but not a
>>         K12 mode.
>>         Now I've effectively missed the K12 menu entry in the Put
>>         menu which is really helpful for students. Clicking on it
>>         displays on the left side of the patch window the K12 colored
>>         menu and objects. Great!
>>         Q: So, is it making sense for having both Pd-L2Ork Std and
>>         K12 entries in the Audio & Video of the system Main menu?
>>
>>
>>             4- I have also some minor issues with Abstractions (name
>>             displayed) into GOP but it's needing further
>>             investigations. Purr Data doesn't have them.
>>
>>
>>         Let me know what you find and I will gladly investigate.
>>
>>         A: See here attached a screen capture highlighting the
>>         differences between Pd-L2Ork and Purr Data.
>>
>>
>>             Best,
>>             Joseph Gastelais
>>             = = = = = = = = = =
>>
>>             Le 22/08/2023 à 20:14, Ico Bukvic a écrit :
>>>             All,
>>>
>>>             A new version is now up, fixing hopefully once and for
>>>             all graph-on-parent (GOP) issues with the truly embedded
>>>             GOP drawing available only in pd-l2ork. There are also
>>>             tons of little fixes and improvements, including the
>>>             array name color being inverted based on the background
>>>             color.
>>>
>>>             You can fetch it from the usual link:
>>>             https://bit.ly/pd-l2ork
>>>
>>>             I would appreciate it if you would please spread the
>>>             word. Thanks.
>>>
>>>             Best,
>>>             Ico
>>>             -- 
>>>             Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
>>>             Director, Creativity + Innovation
>>>             Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD
>>>             Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
>>>             Virginia Tech
>>>             Creative Technologies in Music
>>>             School of Performing Arts – 0141
>>>             Blacksburg, VA 24061
>>>             (540) 231-6139
>>>             ico at vt.edu
>>>
>>>             ci.icat.vt.edu  <http://ci.icat.vt.edu>
>>>             l2ork.icat.vt.edu  <http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu>
>>>             ico.bukvic.net   <http://ico.bukvic.net>
>>>
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