[L2Ork-dev] Pd-L2Ork 20230820 is now available

Ico Bukvic ico at vt.edu
Thu Aug 24 10:51:39 EDT 2023


I just added a git commit for the fluid~ gain option and translation of the
K12 menu option. This should be available in the next release.

Best,

Ico

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On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 9:06 AM Ico Bukvic <ico at vt.edu> wrote:

> Looks like translation for the k12 mode in the File menu is missing. It is
> the "undefined" option that is checked. When you start with pd-l2ork-k12
> and create the new patch, do you immediately get k12 menu on the left side
> of the new patch?
>
> This mode is for beginners, so it prevents access to more advanced options
> and allows creation of only k12 objects. This is the reason why it is still
> included.
>
> For the abstractions where you see their name, this is because pd-l2ork
> draws objects inside of the abstraction window *even* if they are only
> partially visible, and then the frame on top of them together with the
> abstraction name, whereas vanilla and purr-data draw this in reverse (frame
> and name first, then objects, only if they fully fit inside the frame),
> thus the abstraction names are hidden by objects drawn inside the
> abstraction. You can always simply hide the abstraction name. This is what
> this option is for. Hope this helps.
>
> Best,
>
> Ico
>
> --
> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
> Director, Creativity + Innovation
> Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
>
> Virginia Tech
> Creative Technologies in Music
> School of Performing Arts – 0141
> Blacksburg, VA 24061
> (540) 231-6139
> ico at vt.edu
>
> ci.icat.vt.edu
> l2ork.icat.vt.edu
> ico.bukvic.net
>
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023, 06:29 Linux Rouen Normandie <linux.rouen at free.fr>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Ico,
>> Thank you for your answers.
>> Please see my comments here below in my original mail awa the 2 attached
>> screen captures.
>> Best,
>> Joseph
>> = = = = = = = = = =
>>
>> Le 24/08/2023 à 06:25, Ico Bukvic a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Joseph,
>> Please see my comments below.
>> Best,
>> Ico
>>
>> --
>> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
>> Director, Creativity + Innovation
>> Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
>>
>> Virginia Tech
>> Creative Technologies in Music
>> School of Performing Arts – 0141
>> Blacksburg, VA 24061
>> (540) 231-6139
>> ico at vt.edu
>>
>> ci.icat.vt.edu
>> l2ork.icat.vt.edu
>> ico.bukvic.net
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 21:27 Linux Rouen Normandie <linux.rouen at free.fr>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Ico,
>>>
>>> Thank you for releasing Pd-L2Ork-full-20230820, here
>>> rev.8559baef-aarch64.deb.
>>> After downloading it from your web site, I just installed it on my
>>> Raspberry Pi 400 running under Raspberry Pi OS 11 (Bullseye) 32-bit.
>>>
>>> I really like your new 60-hz GUI.
>>> And it's still a little bit strange when you move back and forth between
>>> Pure Data (Tcl/Tk) and Pd-L2Ork / Purr Data (HTML5). From my user point of
>>> view, it would be very nice to have into one application all the best of
>>> them.
>>>
>>> After a quick test, I have detected few issues of which:
>>> 1- GEM errors in the console (I'm not a GEM user yet):
>>> """""
>>> GEM: image loading plugins: magick SGI STB jpeg tiff
>>> GEM: film loading plugins: MPEG3 aviplay gmerlin quicktime4linux
>>> GEM: image saving plugins: SGI STB jpeg magick tiff
>>> GEM: model loading plugins: OBJ
>>> *  error: [GEM:recordNDI] Please (re)install the NewTek NDI Runtimes to
>>> use this plugin.*
>>> *... click the link above to track it down, or click the 'Find Last
>>> Error' item in the Edit menu.*
>>>  error:                need to find the library 'libndi.so.4'
>>> GEM: video record plugins: QT4L V4L V4L2
>>> *  error: [GEM:videoNDI] Please (re)install the NewTek NDI Runtimes to
>>> use this plugin.*
>>> *  error:                need to find the library 'libndi.so.4'*
>>> GEM: video capture plugins: NDI dc1394 decklink v4l v4l2
>>> """""
>>>
>>
>> This is benign. It just says that you don't have support for some of the
>> modules either because you don't have that device or supporting libraries,
>> or both. You can ignore these.
>>
>> A: Well, understood.
>>
>>
>>> 2- [fluid~]
>>> """""
>>> error: fluid~: no method for 'gain'
>>> """""
>>> I have tested both Pd-L2Ork-20230820 and Purr-Data-2.19.3-20230725 with
>>> the same configuration on the same RPi with the same Audio/MIDI patch, Purr
>>> Data is okay but effectively no [gain( control with Pd-L2Ork.
>>>
>>
>> Will need to investigate when this feature was added and update my
>> source. Should be a quick fix.
>>
>> A: Good.
>>
>>
>>> 3- Launching Pd-L2Ork K12 still open (only) Pd-L2-Ork.
>>> Is a dedicated K12 version still current ?
>>>
>>
>> You can now enable K12 mode in the File menu, or just show the M12 menu
>> in the Put menu. That said, are you sure Pd-L2Ork starts in regular mode?
>> Open a patch and see if the K12 menu is available.
>>
>> A: In the File menu of both Pd-L2Ork Std and K12 there is a K12 Demos
>> entry, see here attached screen capture, but not a K12 mode.
>> Now I've effectively missed the K12 menu entry in the Put menu which is
>> really helpful for students. Clicking on it displays on the left side of
>> the patch window the K12 colored menu and objects. Great!
>> Q: So, is it making sense for having both Pd-L2Ork Std and K12 entries in
>> the Audio & Video of the system Main menu?
>>
>>
>>> 4- I have also some minor issues with Abstractions (name displayed) into
>>> GOP but it's needing further investigations. Purr Data doesn't have them.
>>>
>>
>> Let me know what you find and I will gladly investigate.
>>
>> A: See here attached a screen capture highlighting the differences
>> between Pd-L2Ork and Purr Data.
>>
>>
>>> Best,
>>> Joseph Gastelais
>>> = = = = = = = = = =
>>>
>>> Le 22/08/2023 à 20:14, Ico Bukvic a écrit :
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> A new version is now up, fixing hopefully once and for all
>>> graph-on-parent (GOP) issues with the truly embedded GOP drawing available
>>> only in pd-l2ork. There are also tons of little fixes and improvements,
>>> including the array name color being inverted based on the background color.
>>>
>>> You can fetch it from the usual link:
>>> https://bit.ly/pd-l2ork
>>>
>>> I would appreciate it if you would please spread the word. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Ico
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
>>> Director, Creativity + Innovation
>>> Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD
>>> Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
>>>
>>> Virginia Tech
>>> Creative Technologies in Music
>>> School of Performing Arts – 0141
>>> Blacksburg, VA 24061
>>> (540) 231-6139ico at vt.edu
>>> ci.icat.vt.edul2ork.icat.vt.eduico.bukvic.net
>>>
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