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<div dir="ltr">I just added a git commit for the fluid~ gain
option and translation of the K12 menu option. This should be
available in the next release.
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at
9:06 AM Ico Bukvic <<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu"
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<div>Looks like translation for the k12 mode in the File
menu is missing. It is the "undefined" option that is
checked. When you start with pd-l2ork-k12 and create the
new patch, do you immediately get k12 menu on the left
side of the new patch?
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<div dir="auto">This mode is for beginners, so it prevents
access to more advanced options and allows creation of
only k12 objects. This is the reason why it is still
included.</div>
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<div dir="auto">For the abstractions where you see their
name, this is because pd-l2ork draws objects inside of
the abstraction window *even* if they are only partially
visible, and then the frame on top of them together with
the abstraction name, whereas vanilla and purr-data draw
this in reverse (frame and name first, then objects,
only if they fully fit inside the frame), thus the
abstraction names are hidden by objects drawn inside the
abstraction. You can always simply hide the abstraction
name. This is what this option is for. Hope this helps.<br>
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<div dir="auto">Best,<br>
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Ico<br>
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<div> Hello Ico,<br>
Thank you for your answers.<br>
Please see my comments here below in my original
mail awa the 2 attached screen captures.<br>
Best,<br>
Joseph<br>
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<div dir="auto">Please see my comments below.<br>
<div dir="auto">Best,<br>
Ico<br>
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<div> Hello Ico,<br>
<br>
Thank you for releasing
Pd-L2Ork-full-20230820, here
rev.8559baef-aarch64.deb.<br>
After downloading it from your web site,
I just installed it on my Raspberry Pi
400 running under Raspberry Pi OS 11
(Bullseye) 32-bit.<br>
<br>
I really like your new 60-hz GUI.<br>
And it's still a little bit strange when
you move back and forth between Pure
Data (Tcl/Tk) and Pd-L2Ork / Purr Data
(HTML5). From my user point of view, it
would be very nice to have into one
application all the best of them.<br>
<br>
After a quick test, I have detected few
issues of which:<br>
1- GEM errors in the console (I'm not a
GEM user yet):<br>
"""""<br>
GEM: image loading plugins: magick SGI
STB jpeg tiff<br>
GEM: film loading plugins: MPEG3 aviplay
gmerlin quicktime4linux<br>
GEM: image saving plugins: SGI STB jpeg
magick tiff<br>
GEM: model loading plugins: OBJ<br>
<i>Â error: [GEM:recordNDI] Please
(re)install the NewTek NDI Runtimes to
use this plugin.</i><i><br>
</i><i>... click the link above to track
it down, or click the 'Find Last
Error' item in the Edit menu.</i><i><br>
</i>Â error:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â need to find
the library 'libndi.so.4'<br>
GEM: video record plugins: QT4L V4L V4L2<br>
<i>Â error: [GEM:videoNDI] Please
(re)install the NewTek NDI Runtimes to
use this plugin.</i><i><br>
</i><i>Â error:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â need to
find the library 'libndi.so.4'</i><i><br>
</i>GEM: video capture plugins: NDI
dc1394 decklink v4l v4l2<br>
"""""<br>
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<div dir="auto">This is benign. It just says
that you don't have support for some of the
modules either because you don't have that
device or supporting libraries, or both. You
can ignore these.<br>
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<div dir="auto">A: Well, understood.<br>
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2- [fluid~]<br>
"""""<br>
error: fluid~: no method for 'gain'<br>
"""""<br>
I have tested both Pd-L2Ork-20230820 and
Purr-Data-2.19.3-20230725 with the same
configuration on the same RPi with the
same Audio/MIDI patch, Purr Data is okay
but effectively no [gain( control with
Pd-L2Ork.<br>
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<div dir="auto">Will need to investigate when
this feature was added and update my source.
Should be a quick fix.<br>
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<div dir="auto">A: Good.<br>
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3- Launching Pd-L2Ork K12 still open
(only) Pd-L2-Ork.<br>
Is a dedicated K12 version still current
?<br>
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<div dir="auto">You can now enable K12 mode in
the File menu, or just show the M12 menu in
the Put menu. That said, are you sure Pd-L2Ork
starts in regular mode? Open a patch and see
if the K12 menu is available.<br>
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A: In the File menu of both Pd-L2Ork Std and
K12 there is a K12 Demos entry, see here
attached screen capture, but not a K12 mode.<br>
Now I've effectively missed the K12 menu entry
in the Put menu which is really helpful for
students. Clicking on it displays on the left
side of the patch window the K12 colored menu
and objects. Great!<br>
Q: So, is it making sense for having both
Pd-L2Ork Std and K12 entries in the Audio
& Video of the system Main menu?<br>
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4- I have also some minor issues with
Abstractions (name displayed) into GOP
but it's needing further investigations.
Purr Data doesn't have them.<br>
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<div dir="auto">Let me know what you find and I
will gladly investigate.<br>
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A: See here attached a screen capture
highlighting the differences between Pd-L2Ork
and Purr Data.<br>
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Best,<br>
Joseph Gastelais<br>
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<div>A new version is now up, fixing
hopefully once and for all
graph-on-parent (GOP) issues with
the truly embedded GOP drawing
available only in pd-l2ork. There
are also tons of little fixes and
improvements, including the array
name color being inverted based on
the background color.</div>
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<div>You can fetch it from the usual
link:</div>
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<div>I would appreciate it if you
would please spread the word.
Thanks.</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
<div>Ico</div>
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