[L2Ork-dev] [PD] Upcoming pd-l2ork release teaser

[Jonathan Wilkes]

Ok, got it up and running.  Some thoughts:

Good:
* wow, just click-dragging a single object around is _way_ faster than in an ordinary canvas window!

* nice semi-transparent scrollbars!
* it's shocking how much nicer the anti-aliased lines.
* font seems to look nicer than pd vanilla.  not sure why...
* fontsize in floating point!

* don't really understand the relationship between ptext and transformation matrix.  it looks like you
can rotate the text, but can you use the matrix to scale it, too?
* matrix stuff wrt to relative location could greatly simplify some of the c code. For example, an entire
"Put" menu array is a series of relative locations of points or path coords...


Bad:
* how do I choose between straight lines and curved?
* in the patch menu, when i move among the menu titles I get some flickering, whereas with the main pd window
menu I don't get flickering (debian wheezy amd_64)

* I get about a 25% jump when click-dragging a single [clip] continuously, compared to about 10% jump
in cpu when in pd-0.44
* it's a little strange that scrollbars inside patch look different than the normal ones.

* scrollbars seem to scroll differently if you change the font size (scrolls slower).

* Now that the scrollbars don't look two decades old, I feel like the cursor should change to a normal
arrow when they have the focus.

* If I duplicate [clip] about twenty times, dragging a selection rectangle gets sluggish and
moving all the [clip]s gets sluggish, too.  Sluggish = obvious latency, and slower than pd vanilla -0.44
which doesn't have dragging latency even with 40 [clip]s.

* tried tooltips.  Hovering over left inlet of "clip":
unknown option "-outline"
unknown option "-outline"
    while executing
"$tkcanvas itemcget [lindex $tags 0] -outline"
    (procedure "pdtk_canvas_enteritem_gettags" line 23)
    invoked from within
"pdtk_canvas_enteritem_gettags .x1e58d50.c 277 135 .x1e58d50.t1e58010i0"

Anyway, very cool so far!

-Jonathan




________________________________
 From: Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico.bukvic at gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>; l2ork-dev <l2ork-dev at disis.music.vt.edu> 
Cc: András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] Upcoming pd-l2ork release teaser
 

Guys, I think I figured out why there was a problem building tkpath. Try 
latest git commit--it appears that my .gitignore setting prevented me 
from committing some of the tkpath's files and hence the hiccup. Latest 
version also fixes lingering display issues with tkpath, route 
regression (as reported by Andras), as well as a few other cosmetic fixes.

Try out the new scrolling algorithm--you can scroll with scrollbars (as 
you could before), they should resize automatically as you change the 
window size and its contents, and perhaps most importantly, now you can 
use middle click anywhere on the canvas to "drag" the canvas as if you 
were to hold paper and drag it around.

HTH
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