<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt">Ok, got it up and running. Some thoughts:<br><br>Good:<br>* wow, just click-dragging a single object around is _way_ faster than in an ordinary canvas window!<br><div>* nice semi-transparent scrollbars!</div><div>* it's shocking how much nicer the anti-aliased lines.</div><div>* font seems to look nicer than pd vanilla. not sure why...</div><div>* fontsize in floating point!<br></div><div>* don't really understand the relationship between ptext and transformation matrix. it looks like you</div><div>can rotate the text, but can you use the matrix to scale it, too?</div><div>* matrix stuff wrt to relative location could greatly simplify some of the c code. For example, an entire</div><div>"Put" menu array is a series of relative locations of points or path coords...<br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px;
font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Bad:</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">* how do I choose between straight lines and curved?<br>* in the patch menu, when i move among the menu titles I get some flickering, whereas with the main pd window</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">menu I don't get flickering (debian wheezy amd_64)<br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>* I get about a 25%
jump when click-dragging a single [clip] continuously, compared to about 10% jump</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>in cpu when in pd-0.44</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>* it's a little strange that scrollbars inside patch look different than the normal ones.<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>* scrollbars seem to scroll differently if you change the font size (scrolls slower).<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>* Now that the scrollbars don't
look two decades old, I feel like the cursor should change to a normal</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>arrow when they have the focus.<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>* If I duplicate [clip] about twenty times, dragging a selection rectangle gets sluggish and</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>moving all the [clip]s gets sluggish, too. Sluggish = obvious latency, and slower than pd vanilla -0.44</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>which doesn't
have dragging latency even with 40 [clip]s.<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>* tried tooltips. Hovering over left inlet of "clip":</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>unknown option "-outline"<br>unknown option "-outline"<br> while executing<br>"$tkcanvas itemcget [lindex $tags 0] -outline"<br> (procedure "pdtk_canvas_enteritem_gettags" line 23)<br> invoked from within<br>"pdtk_canvas_enteritem_gettags .x1e58d50.c 277 135 .x1e58d50.t1e58010i0"</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Anyway, very cool so far!</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">-Jonathan<br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ivica Ico Bukvic
<ico.bukvic@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika@yahoo.com>; l2ork-dev <l2ork-dev@disis.music.vt.edu> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> András Murányi <muranyia@gmail.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 30, 2013 12:23 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PD] Upcoming pd-l2ork release teaser<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>Guys, I think I figured out why there was a problem building tkpath. Try <br>latest git commit--it appears that my .gitignore setting prevented me <br>from committing some of the tkpath's files and hence the hiccup. Latest <br>version also fixes lingering display issues with tkpath, route <br>regression (as reported by Andras), as well as a few other cosmetic fixes.<br><br>Try out the new scrolling algorithm--you can scroll with scrollbars (as
<br>you could before), they should resize automatically as you change the <br>window size and its contents, and perhaps most importantly, now you can <br>use middle click anywhere on the canvas to "drag" the canvas as if you <br>were to hold paper and drag it around.<br><br>HTH<br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>