[L2Ork-dev] Pd-L2Ork now available on flathub

[Linux ROUEN Normandie]

My understanding of Flatpak, and others like Snap and AppImage, is you 
are not sharing anything between applications.
Everything is included into a simple package, the app itself and all the 
necessary dependencies, working in a sandbox.

Now about the sizes, in Linux Mint 21 Cinnamon I have the following reports:
Télécharger = Download / Espace disque est exigé = Requested disk space 
for installation






Reading the following is going into your direction. I need to test them.
But in such a case the "sandboxing" declaration is becoming less true as 
several applications can share the same library/librairies.
Flatpak is advertised as offering a sandbox environment in which users 
can run application software in isolation from the rest of the system. 
Really?!?
" " " " "
Flatpak <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatpak> runs in a sandbox (which 
provides a separate, ABI-stable version of all common system libraries), 
and that means that it will always use more space on the system than 
common native packages.
However, this is not a concern as Flatpak uses OSTree as its backend 
which can deduplicate matching files. This means that the first install 
of a Flatpak application will always take up more space at first, but 
will be more efficient as the user installs more Flatpak packages.
" " " " "

MIDI Realtime and JACK are still open questions.

Joseph
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Le 03/11/2023 à 10:02, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
> On 11/2/23 18:07, Linux ROUEN Normandie wrote:
>> Very nice to have Pd-L2Ork in Flatpak, same for Pd and Purr Data.
>> For example all 3 are available in the Software Center of Linux Mint 
>> 21 (based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS).
>> For the installation, Pd v.0.54-1 needs ~ 2 GB (+ externals), 
>> Pd-L2Ork v.20231030 ~ 3.6 GB and Purr Data v.2.19.3 ~ 3.3 GB.
>> If you use only Flatpak applications your HDD or SSD could be full 
>> very quickly, especially when using the Raspberry Pi hardware.
>
> are you sure?
>
> if you *only* install e.g. "Pd", you might need 2GB, but the flatpak 
> of Pd itself is only 43MB (extracted).
> it does require a runtime environment ("Freedesktop Platform" and 
> friends), which *is* quite big in total.
>
> however, in my understanding, the platform can be shared between 
> different applications, so once you have installed e.g. Pd, also 
> installing Pd-L2ork will only add another 572MB, and also installing 
> PurrData will only add another 284MB.
>
> (there are different versions of the "Freedesktop Environment", so the 
> above is not *always* true; nevertheless there is a lot of data 
> sharing between applications)
>
> gmdsar
> IOhannes
>
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