[L2Ork-dev] Purr Data: Availability of Else and Cyclone libraries?

[Linux ROUEN Normandie]

Hello Albert,

Thank you for your clear answers. I understand it's a lot of works 
involved for achieving in several steps what I questioned.
So for the time being, I will split my development between Purr Data / 
Pure Data Vanilla depending if Else / newest Cyclone are needed or not.

Best, Joseph
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Le 03/02/2023 à 18:56, Albert Graef a écrit :
> Hi Joseph.
>
> Yes, I've been thinking about this as well. It's a substantial task, 
> though. With the recently released Purr Data 2.19.2, we've at long 
> last ported the hammereditor, but there's still the keyboard GUI in 
> ELSE which would have to be ported to JS. And then we'd have to see 
> which vanilla API changes need to be backported in order to support 
> the latest cyclone and ELSE.
>
> Also, as Alexandre mentioned, it makes sense for his cyclone and ELSE 
> to stabilize a bit before we attempt to port them over.
>
> Then there's the issue of backward compatibility with legacy cyclone 
> applications that needs some thought. Right now, people can still run 
> many of their old patches that they used to run with classic pd-l2ork 
> or pd-extended with Purr Data, and we'd like to keep it that way. I'm 
> not sure how compatible the latest cyclone still is with older 
> versions. Alexandre, you should know, maybe you can shed some light on 
> this?
>
> Maybe some of the tasks involved could be tackled in a future GSoC, 
> but I wouldn't hold my breath for it. I'm tempted to look into it at 
> some point, though. I've also been tossing around the idea to add 
> another plugdata-like type of "light" build which would include 
> cyclone and ELSE to mirror what's available in plugdata. That would be 
> useful for those who might prefer Purr for development, but would also 
> like to be able to run their patches as plugins via plugdata. I 
> consider myself in that camp.
>
> Lots of tasks for the infinite TODO list (TM). ;-)
>
> Albert
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>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 3:05 PM Linux ROUEN Normandie 
> <linux.rouen at free.fr> wrote:
>
>     Hello Jonathan and Albert,
>
>     Is there any chance to have sooner or later available under Purr
>     Data (today with Pd-0.48.0 engine) the following 2 libraries ?
>     - Else <https://github.com/porres/pd-else> >= v.1.0 (this version
>     needs Pd Vanilla >= v.0.53-1)
>     - Cyclone <https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone> (~ Max 7.3.5) >=
>     v.0.6.1 (this version needs Pd Vanilla >= v.0.52-1)
>     Today Cyclone (~ Max 4) in Purr Data is in a prehistorical version
>     ~ 0.1 for years.
>
>     Or at least the following 3 objects ?
>     - [else/keyboard] - this is a must to have for MIDI applications
>     - [else/sfont~] - a nice alternative to [fluid~]
>     - [else/midi] - an alternative to [cyclone/seq]
>
>     Thank you.
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>     Best,
>     Joseph Gastelais
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