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    Hello Albert,<br>
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    Thank you for your clear answers. I understand it's a lot of works
    involved for achieving in several steps what I questioned.<br>
    So for the time being, I will split my development between Purr Data
    / Pure Data Vanilla depending if Else / newest Cyclone are needed or
    not.<br>
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    Best, Joseph<br>
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      Le 03/02/2023 à 18:56, Albert Graef a écrit :<br>
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        <div>Hi Joseph.</div>
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        <div>Yes, I've been thinking about this as well. It's a
          substantial task, though. With the recently released Purr Data
          2.19.2, we've at long last ported the hammereditor, but
          there's still the keyboard GUI in ELSE which would have to be
          ported to JS. And then we'd have to see which vanilla API
          changes need to be backported in order to support the latest
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        <div>Also, as Alexandre mentioned, it makes sense for his
          cyclone and ELSE to stabilize a bit before we attempt to port
          them over.</div>
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        <div>Then there's the issue of backward compatibility with
          legacy cyclone applications that needs some thought. Right
          now, people can still run many of their old patches that they
          used to run with classic pd-l2ork or pd-extended with Purr
          Data, and we'd like to keep it that way. I'm not sure how
          compatible the latest cyclone still is with older versions.
          Alexandre, you should know, maybe you can shed some light on
          this?<br>
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          <div>Maybe some of the tasks involved could be tackled in a
            future GSoC, but I wouldn't hold my breath for it. I'm
            tempted to look into it at some point, though. I've also
            been tossing around the idea to add another plugdata-like
            type of "light" build which would include cyclone and ELSE
            to mirror what's available in plugdata. That would be useful
            for those who might prefer Purr for development, but would
            also like to be able to run their patches as plugins via
            plugdata. I consider myself in that camp.<br>
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          <div>Lots of tasks for the infinite TODO list (TM). ;-)<br>
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          <div>Albert</div>
          <div>= = = = = = = = = =<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 3:05 PM
          Linux ROUEN Normandie <<a href="mailto:linux.rouen@free.fr"
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          <div> Hello Jonathan and Albert,<br>
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            Is there any chance to have sooner or later available under
            Purr Data (today with Pd-0.48.0 engine) the following 2
            libraries ?<br>
            - <a href="https://github.com/porres/pd-else"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Else</a> >=
            v.1.0 (this version needs Pd Vanilla >= v.0.53-1)<br>
            - <a href="https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Cyclone</a> (~ Max
            7.3.5) >= v.0.6.1 (this version needs Pd Vanilla >=
            v.0.52-1)<br>
            Today Cyclone (~ Max 4) in Purr Data is in a prehistorical
            version ~ 0.1 for years.<br>
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            Or at least the following 3 objects ?<br>
            - [else/keyboard] - this is a must to have for MIDI
            applications<br>
            - [else/sfont~] - a nice alternative to [fluid~]<br>
            - [else/midi] - an alternative to [cyclone/seq]<br>
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            Thank you.<br>
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              Best,<br>
              Joseph Gastelais<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">Dr. Albert Gr"af<br>
                  Computer Music Research Group, JGU Mainz, Germany<br>
                  Email: <a href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com"
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                  web: <a href="https://agraef.github.io/"
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