[L2Ork-dev] Purr Data: Availability of Else and Cyclone libraries?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Em sex., 3 de fev. de 2023 às 14:56, Albert Graef <aggraef at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> Also, as Alexandre mentioned, it makes sense for his cyclone and ELSE to
> stabilize a bit before we attempt to port them over.
>

Cyclone should be stable, specially now with the last release I plan to do
this month



> Then there's the issue of backward compatibility with legacy cyclone
> applications that needs some thought. Right now, people can still run many
> of their old patches that they used to run with classic pd-l2ork or
> pd-extended with Purr Data, and we'd like to keep it that way. I'm not sure
> how compatible the latest cyclone still is with older versions. Alexandre,
> you should know, maybe you can shed some light on this?
>

Cyclone is supposed to be backwards compatible, but there are minor
exceptions and issues specific to pd-l2ork/purr data, like the [coll]
object, which has a 2nd argument in pd-l2ork/purr data for the threaded
mode. The thing is that way back, still in MAX 4.0, a 2nd argument was
added to [coll] (and this was after Cyclone was developed). We included
this behaviour for proper and exact compatibility to MAX. So we created an
extra "@threaded" mode for [coll] and this was back in Cyclone 0.3 and this
matter was discussed at the time and mentioned to Ivica, I remember. This
seems to be the most complicated matter.



> Maybe some of the tasks involved could be tackled in a future GSoC
>

That would be great and I could get involved in that as some "mentor", and
also learn better from it how to adapt the GUI externals to nw.js and also
how to properly code GUIs in tcl/tk.

cheers



> but I wouldn't hold my breath for it. I'm tempted to look into it at some
> point, though. I've also been tossing around the idea to add another
> plugdata-like type of "light" build which would include cyclone and ELSE to
> mirror what's available in plugdata. That would be useful for those who
> might prefer Purr for development, but would also like to be able to run
> their patches as plugins via plugdata. I consider myself in that camp.
>
> Lots of tasks for the infinite TODO list (TM). ;-)
>
> Albert
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 3:05 PM Linux ROUEN Normandie <linux.rouen at free.fr>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Jonathan and Albert,
>>
>> Is there any chance to have sooner or later available under Purr Data
>> (today with Pd-0.48.0 engine) the following 2 libraries ?
>> - Else <https://github.com/porres/pd-else> >= v.1.0 (this version needs
>> Pd Vanilla >= v.0.53-1)
>> - Cyclone <https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone> (~ Max 7.3.5) >=
>> v.0.6.1 (this version needs Pd Vanilla >= v.0.52-1)
>> Today Cyclone (~ Max 4) in Purr Data is in a prehistorical version ~ 0.1
>> for years.
>>
>> Or at least the following 3 objects ?
>> - [else/keyboard] - this is a must to have for MIDI applications
>> - [else/sfont~] - a nice alternative to [fluid~]
>> - [else/midi] - an alternative to [cyclone/seq]
>>
>> Thank you.
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> Best,
>> Joseph Gastelais
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