[L2Ork-dev] Shortcuts Pd-l2ork-2.17.0 20220728-rev.7c8d503d ubuntu 22.04

Jonathan Wilkes jon.w.wilkes at gmail.com
Tue Aug 9 19:49:45 EDT 2022


It appears this is a limitation/bug in the GUI toolkit. For whatever reason
it does not currently allow ASCII 34 (double quote) to be used as a
shortcut. Unfortunately, on your French keyboard that is what the physical
"digit1" key maps to on.

Same problem with every other key, except digit8 which is your minus key.
So you currently have one number key you can use for a shortcut-- make sure
to use it wisely :)

We'll see if the author of the toolkit can fix this. Otherwise I have to
create a workaround specifically for your French keyboard.

-Jonathan

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 6:25 PM Jonathan Wilkes <jon.w.wilkes at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Are you pressing it **without** any modifiers?
>
> If so-- try the modifiers, too-- shift, ctrl, etc.
>
> It works here **without** any modifiers.
>
> -Jonathan
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 3:57 PM Jean-Christophe Sekinger <
> jc.sekinger at free.fr> wrote:
>
>> The shortcut name [1] appeared in the "add" menu /but/ nothing is created
>> with the key…
>>
>> encore du courage !?
>>
>> merci !
>>
>>
>> Jean-Christophe Sekinger
>> 19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
>> 06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32https://jc-sekinger.fr/
>> (bépo et Ubuntu)
>>
>> Le 09/08/2022 à 20:23, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
>>
>> Ok, try this:
>>
>> "object": { key: "Digit1" },
>>
>> Let me know if that works **without** any modifiers.
>>
>> -Jonathan
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 1:21 AM Jean-Christophe Sekinger <
>> jc.sekinger at free.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you…
>>>
>>>    1. the shortcut name disappears from the "add" menu
>>>    2. the object in not created with the key ["]
>>>
>>> :/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> so much complicated than I thougt…
>>>
>>>
>>> Jean-Christophe Sekinger
>>> 19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
>>> 06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32https://jc-sekinger.fr/
>>> (bépo et Ubuntu)
>>>
>>> Le 08/08/2022 à 18:05, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
>>>
>>> Okay.
>>>
>>> So what happens if you try changing the first shortcut to this:
>>>
>>> "object": { key: '"' },
>>>
>>> Expected behavior: you can type this:
>>> "
>>> with *no* modifiers and it will create an empty box
>>>
>>> What behavior do you get?
>>>
>>> -Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 1:54 AM Jean-Christophe Sekinger <
>>> jc.sekinger at free.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> that is the tool I was looking for ! thank you
>>>>
>>>> the output for each of the five first keys off the "add" menu is here:
>>>>
>>>> https://pastebin.com/SCzakDSV
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jean-Christophe Sekinger
>>>> 19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
>>>> 06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32https://jc-sekinger.fr/
>>>> (bépo et Ubuntu)
>>>>
>>>> Le 07/08/2022 à 19:42, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Oh, also:
>>>>
>>>> 1. make sure "keypress" is **unchecked**
>>>>
>>>> 2. make sure "classic", "modifiers", and "DOM3" are **checked**
>>>>
>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 1:41 PM Jonathan Wilkes <jon.w.wilkes at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Use this:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://unixpapa.com/js/testkey.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Press that key and **only** that key and release it before autorepeat
>>>>> happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do not press any modifiers or any other keys.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then copy the output from that textarea and post it here.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 1:32 AM Jean-Christophe Sekinger <
>>>>> jc.sekinger at free.fr> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you (very much)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as I already said it does npt work (and in the app, the shortcut is
>>>>>> not displayed any more…)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really does not understand why it is working in pd vanilla (not
>>>>>> only in azerty or in qwerty : in bepo too)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> have you any other idea ? (the Typematrix keyboard has a numlock too)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jean-Christophe Sekinger
>>>>>> 19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
>>>>>> 06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32https://jc-sekinger.fr/
>>>>>> (bépo et Ubuntu)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 07/08/2022 à 01:02, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "object": { key: '"', modifiers: "shift" },
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 3:28 PM Jean-Christophe Sekinger <
>>>>>> jc.sekinger at free.fr> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to use it as in puredata vanilla : shift+" (=1)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jean-Christophe Sekinger
>>>>>>> 19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
>>>>>>> 06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32https://jc-sekinger.fr/
>>>>>>> (bépo et Ubuntu)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 06/08/2022 à 19:13, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you pressing that key without any modifiers like ctrl and shift?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 12:36 PM Jean-Christophe Sekinger <
>>>>>>> jc.sekinger at free.fr> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> anybody ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jean-Christophe Sekinger
>>>>>>>> 19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
>>>>>>>> 06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32https://jc-sekinger.fr/
>>>>>>>> (bépo et Ubuntu)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 04/08/2022 à 07:16, Jean-Christophe Sekinger a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> doesn’t work
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> part of the output with xev (absolutely don’t understand it — exept
>>>>>>>> "KeyPress event") when I press [shift]+["]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> KeyPress event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001,
>>>>>>>>     root 0x1e2, subw 0x0, time 2435198, (289,93), root:(2209,157),
>>>>>>>>     state 0x10, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
>>>>>>>>     XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
>>>>>>>>     XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
>>>>>>>>     XFilterEvent returns: False
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> KeyPress event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001,
>>>>>>>>     root 0x1e2, subw 0x0, time 2435965, (289,93), root:(2209,157),
>>>>>>>>     state 0x11, keycode 10 (keysym 0x31, 1), same_screen YES,
>>>>>>>>     XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (31) "1"
>>>>>>>>     XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (31) "1"
>>>>>>>>     XFilterEvent returns: False
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jean-Christophe Sekinger
>>>>>>>> 19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
>>>>>>>> 06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32https://jc-sekinger.fr/
>>>>>>>> (bépo et Ubuntu)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 04/08/2022 à 07:10, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "object": { key: "1", modifiers: "shift" },
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "object": { key: '"', modifiers: "shift" },
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 12:49 AM Jean-Christophe Sekinger<jc.sekinger at free.fr> <jc.sekinger at free.fr> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thank you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> doesn’t work, neither
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "object": { key: '"', modifiers: cmd_or_ctrl },
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would use these key with Shift (not ctrl)
>>>>>>>> the add menu shows no key shortcut for "object"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> any other solution ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jean-Christophe Sekinger
>>>>>>>> 19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
>>>>>>>> 06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32https://jc-sekinger.fr/
>>>>>>>> (bépo et Ubuntu)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 03/08/2022 à 22:53, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> shift+"     (1, like in puredata vanilla)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay, try changing the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "1"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> '"'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 4:17 PM Jean-Christophe Sekinger<jc.sekinger at free.fr> <jc.sekinger at free.fr> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Press the key that you want to use for the shortcut for "Object" and
>>>>>>>> email it to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> shift+"     (1, like in puredata vanilla)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> shift+«     (2…)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> shift+»     (3…)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> shift+(     (4…)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> shift+)     (5…)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (a brief description here → https://bepo.fr/wiki/Accueil)
>>>>>>>>
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