<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr">It appears this is a limitation/bug in the GUI toolkit. For whatever reason it does not currently allow ASCII 34 (double quote) to be used as a shortcut. Unfortunately, on your French keyboard that is what the physical "digit1" key maps to on.</div><div class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div class="gmail_attr">Same problem with every other key, except digit8 which is your minus key. So you currently have one number key you can use for a shortcut-- make sure to use it wisely :)</div><div class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div class="gmail_attr">We'll see if the author of the toolkit can fix this. Otherwise I have to create a workaround specifically for your French keyboard.</div><div class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div class="gmail_attr">-Jonathan<br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 6:25 PM Jonathan Wilkes <<a href="mailto:jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com">jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Are you pressing it **without** any modifiers?</div><div><br></div><div>If so-- try the modifiers, too-- shift, ctrl, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>It works here **without** any modifiers.</div><div><br></div><div>-Jonathan<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 3:57 PM Jean-Christophe Sekinger <<a href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>The shortcut name [1] appeared in the "add" menu /but/ nothing is
created with the key… <br>
</p>
<p>encore du courage !? <br>
</p>
<p>merci !<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
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<div>Le 09/08/2022 à 20:23, Jonathan Wilkes
a écrit :<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Ok, try this:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span>"object": { key: "Digit1" },</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Let me know if that works **without** any modifiers.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Jonathan<br>
</div>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 1:21 AM Jean-Christophe
Sekinger <<a href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>Thank you…</p>
<ol>
<li>the shortcut name disappears from the "add" menu</li>
<li>the object in not created with the key ["]</li>
</ol>
<p>:/</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>so much complicated than I thougt… <br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
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<div>Le 08/08/2022 à 18:05, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Okay.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So what happens if you try changing the first
shortcut to this:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> <span>"object": { key: '"' },</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span>Expected behavior: you can type this:</span></div>
<div><span>"</span></div>
<div><span>with *no* modifiers and it will create an
empty box</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span>What behavior do you get?</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span>-Jonathan<br>
</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span> </div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 8, 2022
at 1:54 AM Jean-Christophe Sekinger <<a href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>that is the tool I was looking for ! thank you</p>
<p>the output for each of the five first keys off
the "add" menu is here:</p>
<p><a href="https://pastebin.com/SCzakDSV" target="_blank">https://pastebin.com/SCzakDSV</a></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
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<div>Le 07/08/2022 à 19:42, Jonathan Wilkes a
écrit :<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Oh, also:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1. make sure "keypress" is **unchecked**</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2. make sure "classic", "modifiers", and
"DOM3" are **checked**</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Jonathan<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug
7, 2022 at 1:41 PM Jonathan Wilkes <<a href="mailto:jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com" target="_blank">jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Use this:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href="https://unixpapa.com/js/testkey.html" target="_blank">https://unixpapa.com/js/testkey.html</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Press that key and **only** that key
and release it before autorepeat
happens.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Do not press any modifiers or any
other keys.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Then copy the output from that
textarea and post it here.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Jonathan<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun,
Aug 7, 2022 at 1:32 AM Jean-Christophe
Sekinger <<a href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>thank you (very much)</p>
<p>as I already said it does npt work
(and in the app, the shortcut is not
displayed any more…)</p>
<p>I really does not understand why it
is working in pd vanilla (not only
in azerty or in qwerty : in bepo
too)</p>
<p>have you any other idea ? (the
Typematrix keyboard has a numlock
too)<br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
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<div>Le 07/08/2022 à 01:02, Jonathan
Wilkes a écrit :<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>What about this:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>"object": { key: '"',
modifiers: "shift" },</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Jonathan<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 3:28 PM
Jean-Christophe Sekinger <<a href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>I would like to use it as
in puredata vanilla :
shift+" (=1)</p>
<p><img src="cid:18284b4efd05fb22aa51" alt=""></p>
<pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
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<div>Le 06/08/2022 à 19:13,
Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Are you pressing that
key without any
modifiers like ctrl and
shift?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Jonathan<br>
</div>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at
12:36 PM Jean-Christophe
Sekinger <<a href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>anybody ?<br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
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<div>Le 04/08/2022 à
07:16,
Jean-Christophe
Sekinger a écrit :<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p>thanks</p>
<p>doesn’t work</p>
<p>part of the
output with xev
(absolutely don’t
understand it —
exept "KeyPress
event") when I
press [shift]+["]<br>
</p>
<pre>KeyPress event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001,
root 0x1e2, subw 0x0, time 2435198, (289,93), root:(2209,157),
state 0x10, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False
KeyPress event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001,
root 0x1e2, subw 0x0, time 2435965, (289,93), root:(2209,157),
state 0x11, keycode 10 (keysym 0x31, 1), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (31) "1"
XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (31) "1"
XFilterEvent returns: False
</pre>
<p><br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
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06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
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<div>Le 04/08/2022 à
07:10, Jonathan
Wilkes a écrit :<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>Maybe
"object": { key: "1", modifiers: "shift" },
or
"object": { key: '"', modifiers: "shift" },
-Jonathan
On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 12:49 AM Jean-Christophe Sekinger
<a href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank"><jc.sekinger@free.fr></a> wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>thank you
doesn’t work, neither
"object": { key: '"', modifiers: cmd_or_ctrl },
I would use these key with Shift (not ctrl)
the add menu shows no key shortcut for "object"
any other solution ?
Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
(bépo et Ubuntu)
Le 03/08/2022 à 22:53, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
shift+" (1, like in puredata vanilla)
Okay, try changing the
"1"
to
'"'
-Jonathan
On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 4:17 PM Jean-Christophe Sekinger
<a href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank"><jc.sekinger@free.fr></a> wrote:
Press the key that you want to use for the shortcut for "Object" and
email it to me.
-Jonathan
shift+" (1, like in puredata vanilla)
shift+« (2…)
shift+» (3…)
shift+( (4…)
shift+) (5…)
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