[L2Ork-dev] Interested in 'General Midi Mad Dash'

Wed Apr 7 03:12:32 EDT 2021

[Pdcontrol] object is inbuilt in Pd vanilla(works for me in Pd version
0.51.3). It was released in version 0.50 [Ref =
http://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/x5.htm]. Pdcontrol inbuilt object is
unavailable in Purr data.

Pdcontrol.pd patch, that Jonathan attached to this thread, works in Purr
Data but not in Pd vanilla, due to the absence of [canvasinfo] in Pd
vanilla.

- Ishan

On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 4:58 AM Matt Barber <brbrofsvl at gmail.com> wrote:

> It wasn't inlet~ fwd – I remembered wrong. It was inlet~'s inlet, which
> you can pass floats to in order to initialize from inside.
>
> I'll test pdcontrol tonight after my kids' bedtime. I'd still rather stay
> up to date with the vanilla built-in when possible, but there might be good
> reasons to avoid that in this iteration.
>
> Matt
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:06 PM Jonathan Wilkes <jon.w.wilkes at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Also-- I think I used my `[pdcontrol]` abstraction for something I
>> posted on the Pd Forum, and none of the Pd Vanilla users noticed. So
>> please test and if it seems to work we can roll it into the build
>> monstrosity somewhere.
>>
>> One question-- how do we ship an abstraction as a core object? I
>> suppose I could make a default-loaded lib named vanilla-compatible for
>> stuff like this. But then if someone runs Purr without prefs the
>> abstraction core objects wouldn't load by default.
>>
>> -Jonathan
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:02 PM Albert Graef <aggraef at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I think that inlet~ fwd was added in 2.13.0, released in Aug 2020 (
>> https://github.com/agraef/purr-data/releases/tag/2.13.0). So it's been
>> implemented for quite a while, at least if the changelogs aren't lying. ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:35 PM Matt Barber <brbrofsvl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I might be wrong about inlet fwd. I'll look soon.
>> >>
>> >> MB
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 1:30 PM Jonathan Wilkes <jon.w.wilkes at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 1:22 PM Matt Barber <brbrofsvl at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Hello, thanks for the questions.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I would prefer that it be Pd-vanilla-with-no-externals compatible.
>> That way it would have maximum usability but could still be included with
>> Purr by default. There are a few updates in Pd that haven't yet AFAIK made
>> it into Purr which could be very helpful, particularly [inlet~ fwd] and
>> [pdcontrol], so getting those into the architecture could be part of this
>> project.
>> >>>
>> >>> * `[inlet~ fwd]` wasn't in the last release of Purr Data, over a year
>> >>> ago? If that's true, it will certainly be in the next release.
>> >>>
>> >>> * attached is an abstraction for pdcontrol. Could you check to see if
>> >>> it actually works? If so we can just ship it with Purr Data
>> >>>
>> >>> -Jonathan
>> >>>
>> >>> >
>> >>> > MB
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 2:33 AM ishan kumar kaler <
>> kumarkalerishan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>   Hi,
>> >>> >>     Thanks for your generous advice. I'll submit a draft proposal
>> for review asap specifying the framework. Besides that, I have some
>> unsureness regarding project implementation details, namely, what Pd
>> version we have to use in the project (pd-l2ork 2.x or pd vanilla)?  Along
>> with core vanilla objects, should we use objects from external libraries
>> (let's say [drunk] from cyclone)?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Best regards,
>> >>> >> Ishan
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 1:06 AM Matt Barber <brbrofsvl at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Welcome! Since this is Pd Vanilla only, you'll want to
>> familiarize yourself asap with abstractions and the [clone] object. Also,
>> the framework for storing, loading, selecting, and playing will be more
>> important than actually completing all of the synths. Be sure to include
>> how you might tackle this framework in your proposal.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Matt
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:04 PM ishan kumar kaler <
>> kumarkalerishan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>   Hi,
>> >>> >>>>     I have created Synth from VSTs in the past. As far as
>> Pure-data is concerned, I have created some basic synths using AM/FM
>> Synthesis and effects. I'm readily exploring more on the go.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> Best regards,
>> >>> >>>> Ishan
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 10:59 PM Jonathan Wilkes <
>> jon.w.wilkes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 12:54 PM ishan kumar kaler
>> >>> >>>>> <kumarkalerishan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > Hello everyone,
>> >>> >>>>> >            My name is Ishan and I am CS Undergrad. I have
>> done few development projects until now and have some Open Source
>> Experience. I have an interest in music production and some experience in
>> sound synthesis.
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > I'm interested in contributing to the Purr Data project and
>> working on the project 'General Midi Library'.
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > In the past, I have worked with DAWs and VSTs and have some
>> experience with Pure Data also. I'm currently exploring Purr Data in-depth
>> and familiarizing myself with the codebase while making contributions all
>> along.
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > I wish to ask if there's an IRC channel alongside the mailing
>> list, as I couldn't find one. I'll be more than happy to have suggestions
>> from you all :)
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > Best regards,
>> >>> >>>>> > Ishan
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Hello Ishan,
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Welcome!
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> We don't have a chat channel atm, but you're welcome to ask any
>> >>> >>>>> questions here on the mailing list.
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> As for the project-- have you built any software synths before?
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Best,
>> >>> >>>>> Jonathan
>> >>> >>>>>
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