[L2Ork-dev] Bug with high pass and band pass filters

Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasnofb at googlemail.com
Thu Jan 29 22:29:34 UTC 2015


Thanks a lot for all the help, Ico, and sorry for my slow answers these 
days. I reported these bugs to the list with another video showing the 
problem, so hopefully they will have a look on it soon.

Take care,
Gilberto

On 29/01/15 06:16, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> Thanks for the clarification. In that case this bug should be reported 
> upstream to Miller et al.
>
> On 1/27/2015 10:39 AM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote:
>> Do you mean the object __[spectrogram~]__ in that patch of mine? 
>> That's the only abstraction being used there. But It's possible to 
>> _hear_ the problem with some of the filters (particularly with a 
>> narrow band pass: if you make a glissando upwards, you can hear that 
>> it stops to "move" at around 12 kHz).
>>
>> On 27/01/15 14:29, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
>>>
>>> FWIW, you may also want to check the accuracy of abstractions you 
>>> are using.
>>>
>>> On Jan 26, 2015 8:19 AM, "Gilberto Agostinho" 
>>> <gilbertohasnofb at googlemail.com 
>>> <mailto:gilbertohasnofb at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Small update: all these bugs are also present in pd vanilla 0.46.5.
>>>
>>>     On 26/01/15 13:05, Gilberto Agostinho wrote:
>>>
>>>         Hi Ico,
>>>
>>>         I just compiled pd vanilla 0.45.4 and I can confirm the bug
>>>         is also present there. I contacted the user who reported it
>>>         to be an extended only bug to know if he is sure about that
>>>         and I also asked him to test my patch in his computer. If it
>>>         turns out he was wrong about vanilla's filters being bug
>>>         free (which is the very likely scenario), I will contact
>>>         Miller about it and also report the bug at sourceforge. I
>>>         will let you know about it as well.
>>>
>>>         Take care,
>>>         Gilberto
>>>
>>>         On 26/01/15 05:28, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
>>>
>>>             Forgot to mention, svf~ acts the same way in your patch.
>>>             Are you sure everything works as expected in the
>>>             abstractions you're using?
>>>
>>>             Also, have you checked with Miller and if so, what was
>>>             his response?
>>>
>>>             Best,
>>>
>>>             Ico
>>>
>>>             On 01/25/2015 11:24 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
>>>
>>>                 Thanks, Gilberto. Even with the d_filter.c being
>>>                 essentially synonymous with pd vanilla (latest
>>>                 version), the problem apparently persists. I am not
>>>                 sure why. Essentially, the behavior is the same in
>>>                 both the latest version of pd vanilla and the one we
>>>                 currently have in pd-l2ork. Did you see it behave
>>>                 differently in vanilla? If so, what version were you
>>>                 using and can you please create a video of that
>>>                 version running the same patch?
>>>
>>>                 Best,
>>>
>>>                 Ico
>>>
>>>                 On 01/24/2015 08:47 PM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote:
>>>
>>>                     Hi Ico,
>>>
>>>                     Thanks for the quick fixes, I will be happy to
>>>                     have a look on it. The only thing is I never
>>>                     compiled pd-l2Ork from source (I only used
>>>                     debian packages made by others for it), and on
>>>                     my first try I got some error messages. I am
>>>                     travelling the whole day tomorrow so I am a bit
>>>                     busy now to try figuring out what I am doing
>>>                     wrong, but I can certainly do this once I get
>>>                     home. However, I prepared a simple patch that
>>>                     can be used to test the filters, together with a
>>>                     video of the current behaviour with my build:
>>>
>>>                     https://www.dropbox.com/sh/m4vsko1th5ppgnw/AABWywJqu88_ZEdp_pk3yQdda?dl=0
>>>
>>>                     http://youtu.be/5nIJIWhqusk
>>>
>>>                     Take care,
>>>                     Gilberto
>>>
>>>                     On 24/01/15 21:11, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
>>>
>>>                         Gilberto,
>>>
>>>                         I just committed experimental fix into git.
>>>                         Can you please test and report if this is
>>>                         now fixed?
>>>
>>>                         Best,
>>>
>>>                         Ico
>>>
>>>                         On 01/22/2015 01:12 PM, Gilberto Agostinho
>>>                         wrote:
>>>
>>>                             Hello all,
>>>
>>>                             Today an user discovered a bug with the
>>>                             high and bang pass filters in Pd
>>>                             0.43.4-extended and the same bug is
>>>                             present in Pd-l2Ork. The same user
>>>                             informs that Pd vanilla 0.45.4 does not
>>>                             display these bugs.
>>>
>>>                             In case you want to have a look on this
>>>                             issue, here is his bug ticket:
>>>                             https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1187/
>>>                             And here is the thread where this was
>>>                             discussed:
>>>                             http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/8967/highpass-hip-not-working-as-expected
>>>
>>>                             Best,
>>>                             Gilberto Agostinho
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