[L2Ork-dev] a couple of questions

[Albert Graef]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 3:25 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico at vt.edu> wrote:

> I tend to disagree with this mainly because prepend does not output a
> genuine list, as it should but rather an "anything" which further confuses
> new users. That said, I offer a compromise--I've just committed earlier
> today an abstraction prepend.pd and its prepend-help.pd file as part of the
> cyclone library that essentially mimics the behavior of prepend.pd but also
> posts intentionally annoying warning in the console that this object is
> deprecated as well as what the users should use instead (namely [list
> prepend]). The help file also reflects this fact with a big red warning box
> at the top of it.
>

Fair enough. Thanks for the update!


> Please note as we move forward we will have to prune a good number of 3rd
> party objects and provide some sort of an interim abstraction that
> substitutes its behavior. I am also looking to consolidate all externals
> into a single folder and drop the whole library_path/external_name nonsense
> which makes pd 3rd party ecosystem incredibly hard to navigate--I am open
> to alternative suggestions but I do want to also point out that I feel
> rather strongly about this. Your help/input in this process will be most
> appreciated.
>

That will surely offer some opportunity for interesting discussions. ;-)
But I think that we'll be fine with it as long as there are suitable
replacements for widely used objects and a clear migration path.

Compatibility works both ways, though. One issue to keep in mind is the
rather limited range of systems where pd-l2ork is available right now. If
you need to run your patches elsewhere (I'm thinking about OS X,
specifically) then you have to fall back to either Pd-Extended or vanilla
Pd + externals from the Pd repo. So maintaining some level of compatibility
to the other flavors is desirable in order to avoid being locked into a
single platform.

Albert

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Computer Music Research Group, JGU Mainz, Germany
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