[L2Ork-dev] pd-l2ork-externals folder

[Gilberto Agostinho]

Thanks a lot for all your efforts, Ivica. Take care!

On 08/11/14 15:09, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
>
> I can certainly look into why adding path via gui is not working. 
> Thank you for the bug report!
>
> On Nov 8, 2014 7:58 AM, "Gilberto Agostinho" 
> <gilbertohasnofb at googlemail.com 
> <mailto:gilbertohasnofb at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>
>     That sounds like a good compromise, Ivica. Also, I just realized
>     that pd-extended does indeed create a invisible config file at ~/
>     just like pd-l2ork is doing, but it doesn't create any folders.
>
>     As for customizing the path in their setting file, that's great,
>     but probably an even better solution would be to do so via the
>     GUI. I think I already reported this, but currently I can't add a
>     new folder to the path via "File" and "Path...", I have to
>     manually edit my config file in a text editor. That is certainly a
>     minor thing for me as I don't mind to do that myself, but I often
>     see in the Pure Data forum how new users have difficulties
>     installing externals and this issue would pose as one extra
>     difficulty for them. Is this broken only for me or is it for everyone?
>
>     Thanks a lot and take care,
>     Gilberto
>
>     On 08/11/14 14:41, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
>>
>>     This feature was inherited from the original extended version
>>     that pd-l2ork was forked from many years ago, which is 0.42.6. As
>>     a potential compromise what we might do is provide a default path
>>     without creating a folder that looks under the old/current
>>     folder, and then allow users to customize that path in their
>>     settings file? Thoughts?
>>
>>     FWIW, personally I don't use this folder at all.
>>
>>     On Nov 8, 2014 7:19 AM, "Gilberto Agostinho"
>>     <gilbertohasnofb at googlemail.com
>>     <mailto:gilbertohasnofb at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi Albert,
>>
>>         On 08/11/14 08:14, Albert Graef wrote:
>>>         So if this is adopted then pd-l2ork should still fall back
>>>         to reading ~/.pdl2ork if there's no other config file.
>>
>>         I think this is a good idea, it should be simple enough to
>>         tell pd-l2Ork to look for that file on the first load (and
>>         thus before it will create the hidden folder for the first
>>         time), so old users can have that file being copied to the
>>         new location.
>>
>>>         Also, I'm not sure whether it's such a great idea to hide
>>>         away the ~/pdl2ork-externals folder. You don't hide your bin
>>>         folder either, do you?
>>
>>         I don't hide my bin indeed, but think of this: if every
>>         program I have installed on my computer would decide to
>>         create a visible folder on my home, that place would be a
>>         mess (I don't even have to imagine that, I can simply hit
>>         Ctrl+H and see how many things are there!). It would be a
>>         mess to quickly find the folders that I use all the time,
>>         such as Music, Document, etc., compared to folders that I
>>         used once or twice in a lifetime, such as ~/.mozilla,
>>         ~/.gimp-2.8, etc.. I remember how polluted was My Documents
>>         folder when I was using Windows, since a lot of programs were
>>         doing exactly what you proposes - and I really don't look
>>         forward in having my system like that once again!
>>
>>>         One might discuss, though, whether it's necessary that
>>>         pd-l2ork always creates that folder on startup if it doesn't
>>>         exist. AFAICT, other Pd flavors don't do this.
>>
>>         That would be a more immediate solution, although I still
>>         think the a hidden folder is the best way to go. Lastly, I
>>         can confirm nor pd-extended nor vanilla pd do this.
>>
>>         Best,
>>         Gilberto
>>
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