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    Thanks a lot for all your efforts, Ivica. Take care!<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/11/14 15:09, Ivica Bukvic wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">I can certainly look into why adding path via gui is
        not working. Thank you for the bug report!</p>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 8, 2014 7:58 AM, "Gilberto
        Agostinho" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="mailto:gilbertohasnofb@googlemail.com">gilbertohasnofb@googlemail.com</a>>
        wrote:<br type="attribution">
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> That sounds like a good
            compromise, Ivica. Also, I just realized that pd-extended
            does indeed create a invisible config file at ~/ just like
            pd-l2ork is doing, but it doesn't create any folders.<br>
            <br>
            As for customizing the path in their setting file, that's
            great, but probably an even better solution would be to do
            so via the GUI. I think I already reported this, but
            currently I can't add a new folder to the path via "File"
            and "Path...", I have to manually edit my config file in a
            text editor. That is certainly a minor thing for me as I
            don't mind to do that myself, but I often see in the Pure
            Data forum how new users have difficulties installing
            externals and this issue would pose as one extra difficulty
            for them. Is this broken only for me or is it for everyone?<br>
            <br>
            Thanks a lot and take care,<br>
            Gilberto<br>
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            <div>On 08/11/14 14:41, Ivica Bukvic wrote:<br>
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              <p dir="ltr">This feature was inherited from the original
                extended version that pd-l2ork was forked from many
                years ago, which is 0.42.6. As a potential compromise
                what we might do is provide a default path without
                creating a folder that looks under the old/current
                folder, and then allow users to customize that path in
                their settings file? Thoughts?</p>
              <p dir="ltr">FWIW, personally I don't use this folder at
                all.</p>
              <div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 8, 2014 7:19 AM, "Gilberto
                Agostinho" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gilbertohasnofb@googlemail.com"
                  target="_blank">gilbertohasnofb@googlemail.com</a>>
                wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Albert,<br>
                    <br>
                    <div>On 08/11/14 08:14, Albert Graef wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">So if this is adopted then pd-l2ork
                        should still fall back to reading ~/.pdl2ork if
                        there's no other config file.<br>
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                    I think this is a good idea, it should be simple
                    enough to tell pd-l2Ork to look for that file on the
                    first load (and thus before it will create the
                    hidden folder for the first time), so old users can
                    have that file being copied to the new location. <br>
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                        <div class="gmail_extra">Also, I'm not sure
                          whether it's such a great idea to hide away
                          the ~/pdl2ork-externals folder. You don't hide
                          your bin folder either, do you? <br>
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                    I don't hide my bin indeed, but think of this: if
                    every program I have installed on my computer would
                    decide to create a visible folder on my home, that
                    place would be a mess (I don't even have to imagine
                    that, I can simply hit Ctrl+H and see how many
                    things are there!). It would be a mess to quickly
                    find the folders that I use all the time, such as
                    Music, Document, etc., compared to folders that I
                    used once or twice in a lifetime, such as
                    ~/.mozilla, ~/.gimp-2.8, etc.. I remember how
                    polluted was My Documents folder when I was using
                    Windows, since a lot of programs were doing exactly
                    what you proposes - and I really don't look forward
                    in having my system like that once again!<br>
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                        <div class="gmail_extra">One might discuss,
                          though, whether it's necessary that pd-l2ork
                          always creates that folder on startup if it
                          doesn't exist. AFAICT, other Pd flavors don't
                          do this. <br>
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                    That would be a more immediate solution, although I
                    still think the a hidden folder is the best way to
                    go. Lastly, I can confirm nor pd-extended nor
                    vanilla pd do this.<br>
                    <br>
                    Best,<br>
                    Gilberto<br>
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