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<p>It doesn’t work <font size="2">:/</font> I’m giving up…</p>
<p>thank you for your work !<br>
</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 10/08/2022 à 08:11, Jonathan Wilkes
a écrit :<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 1:16
AM Jean-Christophe Sekinger <<a
href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>>
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<p>Thank you again ! <br>
</p>
<p>couldn’t I use my numpad for those five first items in
the add menu — with fn+number ? (my keyboard is this one
→ <a
href="http://typematrix.com/bepo/view_closeup.php?l=&t=keyb&id=0"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://typematrix.com/bepo/view_closeup.php?l=&t=keyb&id=0</a>)<br>
</p>
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</div>
<div>For numpad keys you should be able to use "Numpad1",
"Numpad2", etc.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>But I don't even see your keyboard style listed on the
W3C KeyboardEvent code value reference[1]. Maybe fn is
handled internally by the keyboard firmware before the
keystroke gets sent to the OS? No idea, so you're on your
own there.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Jonathan<br>
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<pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
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<div>Le 10/08/2022 à 01:49, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :<br>
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<div class="gmail_attr">It appears this is a
limitation/bug in the GUI toolkit. For whatever
reason it does not currently allow ASCII 34
(double quote) to be used as a shortcut.
Unfortunately, on your French keyboard that is
what the physical "digit1" key maps to on.</div>
<div class="gmail_attr"><br>
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<div class="gmail_attr">Same problem with every
other key, except digit8 which is your minus key.
So you currently have one number key you can use
for a shortcut-- make sure to use it wisely :)</div>
<div class="gmail_attr"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_attr">We'll see if the author of
the toolkit can fix this. Otherwise I have to
create a workaround specifically for your French
keyboard.</div>
<div class="gmail_attr"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_attr">-Jonathan<br>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 9,
2022 at 6:25 PM Jonathan Wilkes <<a
href="mailto:jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Are you pressing it **without** any
modifiers?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If so-- try the modifiers, too-- shift,
ctrl, etc.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It works here **without** any modifiers.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Jonathan<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 9,
2022 at 3:57 PM Jean-Christophe Sekinger <<a
href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>>
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<p>The shortcut name [1] appeared in the
"add" menu /but/ nothing is created with
the key… <br>
</p>
<p>encore du courage !? <br>
</p>
<p>merci !<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
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<div>Le 09/08/2022 à 20:23, Jonathan Wilkes
a écrit :<br>
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<div>Ok, try this:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span>"object": { key: "Digit1" },</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Let me know if that works
**without** any modifiers.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Jonathan<br>
</div>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at
1:21 AM Jean-Christophe Sekinger <<a
href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p>Thank you…</p>
<ol>
<li>the shortcut name disappears
from the "add" menu</li>
<li>the object in not created
with the key ["]</li>
</ol>
<p>:/</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<p>so much complicated than I
thougt… <br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
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<div>Le 08/08/2022 à 18:05,
Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :<br>
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<div>Okay.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So what happens if you
try changing the first
shortcut to this:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> <span>"object": { key:
'"' },</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span>Expected behavior:
you can type this:</span></div>
<div><span>"</span></div>
<div><span>with *no* modifiers
and it will create an
empty box</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span>What behavior do
you get?</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span>-Jonathan<br>
</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span> </div>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_attr">On Mon,
Aug 8, 2022 at 1:54 AM
Jean-Christophe Sekinger
<<a
href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>>
wrote:<br>
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class="gmail_quote"
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<p>that is the tool I was
looking for ! thank you</p>
<p>the output for each of
the five first keys off
the "add" menu is here:</p>
<p><a
href="https://pastebin.com/SCzakDSV"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://pastebin.com/SCzakDSV</a></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
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<div>Le 07/08/2022 à
19:42, Jonathan Wilkes a
écrit :<br>
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<div>Oh, also:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1. make sure
"keypress" is
**unchecked**</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2. make sure
"classic",
"modifiers", and
"DOM3" are
**checked**</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Jonathan<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_attr">On
Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at
1:41 PM Jonathan
Wilkes <<a
href="mailto:jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
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class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px
0px 0px
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solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Use this:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a
href="https://unixpapa.com/js/testkey.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://unixpapa.com/js/testkey.html</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Press that
key and **only**
that key and
release it
before
autorepeat
happens.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Do not press
any modifiers or
any other keys.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Then copy the
output from that
textarea and
post it here.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Jonathan<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_attr">On
Sun, Aug 7, 2022
at 1:32 AM
Jean-Christophe
Sekinger <<a
href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>
<p>thank you
(very much)</p>
<p>as I
already said
it does npt
work (and in
the app, the
shortcut is
not displayed
any more…)</p>
<p>I really
does not
understand why
it is working
in pd vanilla
(not only in
azerty or in
qwerty : in
bepo too)</p>
<p>have you
any other idea
? (the
Typematrix
keyboard has a
numlock too)<br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
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<div>Le
07/08/2022 à
01:02,
Jonathan
Wilkes a
écrit :<br>
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<blockquote
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>What
about this:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>"object":
{ key: '"',
modifiers:
"shift" },</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Jonathan<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 3:28 PM Jean-Christophe
Sekinger <<a
href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
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class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>I would
like to use it
as in puredata
vanilla :
shift+" (=1)</p>
<p><img
src="cid:part1.qNKN0r9k.gKt3SWmM@free.fr"
alt=""
class=""></p>
<pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
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<div>Le
06/08/2022 à
19:13,
Jonathan
Wilkes a
écrit :<br>
</div>
<blockquote
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Are you
pressing that
key without
any modifiers
like ctrl and
shift?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Jonathan<br>
</div>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 12:36 PM Jean-Christophe
Sekinger <<a
href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
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class="gmail_quote"
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>anybody ?<br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
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<div>Le
04/08/2022 à
07:16,
Jean-Christophe
Sekinger a
écrit :<br>
</div>
<blockquote
type="cite">
<p>thanks</p>
<p>doesn’t
work</p>
<p>part of the
output with
xev
(absolutely
don’t
understand it
— exept
"KeyPress
event") when I
press
[shift]+["]<br>
</p>
<pre>KeyPress event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001,
root 0x1e2, subw 0x0, time 2435198, (289,93), root:(2209,157),
state 0x10, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False
KeyPress event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001,
root 0x1e2, subw 0x0, time 2435965, (289,93), root:(2209,157),
state 0x11, keycode 10 (keysym 0x31, 1), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (31) "1"
XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (31) "1"
XFilterEvent returns: False
</pre>
<p><br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
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<div>Le
04/08/2022 à
07:10,
Jonathan
Wilkes a
écrit :<br>
</div>
<blockquote
type="cite">
<pre>Maybe
"object": { key: "1", modifiers: "shift" },
or
"object": { key: '"', modifiers: "shift" },
-Jonathan
On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 12:49 AM Jean-Christophe Sekinger
<a href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><jc.sekinger@free.fr></a> wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote
type="cite">
<pre>thank you
doesn’t work, neither
"object": { key: '"', modifiers: cmd_or_ctrl },
I would use these key with Shift (not ctrl)
the add menu shows no key shortcut for "object"
any other solution ?
Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
(bépo et Ubuntu)
Le 03/08/2022 à 22:53, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
shift+" (1, like in puredata vanilla)
Okay, try changing the
"1"
to
'"'
-Jonathan
On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 4:17 PM Jean-Christophe Sekinger
<a href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><jc.sekinger@free.fr></a> wrote:
Press the key that you want to use for the shortcut for "Object" and
email it to me.
-Jonathan
shift+" (1, like in puredata vanilla)
shift+« (2…)
shift+» (3…)
shift+( (4…)
shift+) (5…)
(a brief description here → <a href="https://bepo.fr/wiki/Accueil" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://bepo.fr/wiki/Accueil</a>)
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rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://disis.music.vt.edu/listinfo/l2ork-dev">https://disis.music.vt.edu/listinfo/l2ork-dev</a>
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