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    <p>Thank you again ! <br>
    </p>
    <p>couldn’t I use my numpad for those five first items in the add
      menu — with fn+number ? (my keyboard is this one →
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://typematrix.com/bepo/view_closeup.php?l=&t=keyb&id=0">http://typematrix.com/bepo/view_closeup.php?l=&t=keyb&id=0</a>)<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
(bépo et Ubuntu)</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 10/08/2022 à 01:49, Jonathan Wilkes
      a écrit :<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAOA7yC5C5JhnN6EEtKkXXT_rAzUZKyWLGbv+O1exr75=J-v37w@mail.gmail.com">
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          <div class="gmail_attr">It appears this is a limitation/bug in
            the GUI toolkit. For whatever reason it does not currently
            allow ASCII 34 (double quote) to be used as a shortcut.
            Unfortunately, on your French keyboard that is what the
            physical "digit1" key maps to on.</div>
          <div class="gmail_attr"><br>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_attr">Same problem with every other key,
            except digit8 which is your minus key. So you currently have
            one number key you can use for a shortcut-- make sure to use
            it wisely :)</div>
          <div class="gmail_attr"><br>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_attr">We'll see if the author of the toolkit
            can fix this. Otherwise I have to create a workaround
            specifically for your French keyboard.</div>
          <div class="gmail_attr"><br>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_attr">-Jonathan<br>
          </div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 6:25
            PM Jonathan Wilkes <<a
              href="mailto:jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com"
              moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com</a>>
            wrote:<br>
          </div>
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              <div>Are you pressing it **without** any modifiers?</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>If so-- try the modifiers, too-- shift, ctrl, etc.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>It works here **without** any modifiers.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>-Jonathan<br>
              </div>
            </div>
            <br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">
              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at
                3:57 PM Jean-Christophe Sekinger <<a
                  href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>>
                wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                <div>
                  <p>The shortcut name [1] appeared in the "add" menu
                    /but/ nothing is created with the key… <br>
                  </p>
                  <p>encore du courage !?  <br>
                  </p>
                  <p>merci !<br>
                  </p>
                  <p><br>
                  </p>
                  <pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
(bépo et Ubuntu)</pre>
                  <div>Le 09/08/2022 à 20:23, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :<br>
                  </div>
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                      <div>Ok, try this:</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div><span>"object": { key: "Digit1" },</span></div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Let me know if that works **without** any
                        modifiers.<br>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>-Jonathan<br>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="ltr">
                      <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 1:21 AM
                        Jean-Christophe Sekinger <<a
                          href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
                      </div>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">
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                          style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                          rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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                            <p>Thank you…</p>
                            <ol>
                              <li>the shortcut name disappears from the
                                "add" menu</li>
                              <li>the object in not created with the key
                                ["]</li>
                            </ol>
                            <p>:/</p>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div> </div>
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                          style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                            <p>so much complicated than I thougt… <br>
                            </p>
                            <p><br>
                            </p>
                            <pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
(bépo et Ubuntu)</pre>
                            <div>Le 08/08/2022 à 18:05, Jonathan Wilkes
                              a écrit :<br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote type="cite">
                              <div dir="ltr">
                                <div>Okay.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>So what happens if you try changing
                                  the first shortcut to this:</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div> <span>"object": { key: '"' },</span></div>
                                <div><span><br>
                                  </span></div>
                                <div><span>Expected behavior: you can
                                    type this:</span></div>
                                <div><span>"</span></div>
                                <div><span>with *no* modifiers and it
                                    will create an empty box</span></div>
                                <div><span><br>
                                  </span></div>
                                <div><span>What behavior do you get?</span></div>
                                <div><span><br>
                                  </span></div>
                                <div><span>-Jonathan<br>
                                  </span></div>
                                <div><span><br>
                                  </span></div>
                                <div><span><br>
                                  </span> </div>
                              </div>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">
                                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                  Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 1:54 AM
                                  Jean-Christophe Sekinger <<a
                                    href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                </div>
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                                  style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                                    <p>that is the tool I was looking
                                      for ! thank you</p>
                                    <p>the output for each of the five
                                      first keys off the "add" menu is
                                      here:</p>
                                    <p><a
                                        href="https://pastebin.com/SCzakDSV"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://pastebin.com/SCzakDSV</a></p>
                                    <p><br>
                                    </p>
                                    <pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
(bépo et Ubuntu)</pre>
                                    <div>Le 07/08/2022 à 19:42, Jonathan
                                      Wilkes a écrit :<br>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote type="cite">
                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                        <div>Oh, also:</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>1. make sure "keypress" is
                                          **unchecked**</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>2. make sure "classic",
                                          "modifiers", and "DOM3" are
                                          **checked**</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>-Jonathan<br>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <br>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                                        <div dir="ltr"
                                          class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug
                                          7, 2022 at 1:41 PM Jonathan
                                          Wilkes <<a
                                            href="mailto:jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com</a>>
                                          wrote:<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                          style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                                          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                          rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                            <div>Use this:</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div><a
                                                href="https://unixpapa.com/js/testkey.html"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://unixpapa.com/js/testkey.html</a></div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Press that key and
                                              **only** that key and
                                              release it before
                                              autorepeat happens.</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Do not press any
                                              modifiers or any other
                                              keys.</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Then copy the output
                                              from that textarea and
                                              post it here.</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>-Jonathan<br>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                          <br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                                            <div dir="ltr"
                                              class="gmail_attr">On Sun,
                                              Aug 7, 2022 at 1:32 AM
                                              Jean-Christophe Sekinger
                                              <<a
                                                href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>>
                                              wrote:<br>
                                            </div>
                                            <blockquote
                                              class="gmail_quote"
                                              style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                                                <p>thank you (very much)</p>
                                                <p>as I already said it
                                                  does npt work (and in
                                                  the app, the shortcut
                                                  is not displayed any
                                                  more…)</p>
                                                <p>I really does not
                                                  understand why it is
                                                  working in pd vanilla
                                                  (not only in azerty or
                                                  in qwerty : in bepo
                                                  too)</p>
                                                <p>have you any other
                                                  idea ? (the Typematrix
                                                  keyboard has a numlock
                                                  too)<br>
                                                </p>
                                                <pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
(bépo et Ubuntu)</pre>
                                                <div>Le 07/08/2022 à
                                                  01:02, Jonathan Wilkes
                                                  a écrit :<br>
                                                </div>
                                                <blockquote type="cite">
                                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                                    <div>What about
                                                      this:</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>"object": {
                                                      key: '"',
                                                      modifiers: "shift"
                                                      },</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>-Jonathan<br>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="gmail_quote">
                                                    <div dir="ltr"
                                                      class="gmail_attr">On
                                                      Sat, Aug 6, 2022
                                                      at 3:28 PM
                                                      Jean-Christophe
                                                      Sekinger <<a
                                                        href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr"
                                                        target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>>
                                                      wrote:<br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <blockquote
                                                      class="gmail_quote"
                                                      style="margin:0px
                                                      0px 0px
                                                      0.8ex;border-left:1px
                                                      solid
                                                      rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p>I would like
                                                          to use it as
                                                          in puredata
                                                          vanilla :
                                                          shift+" (=1)</p>
                                                        <p><img
                                                          src="cid:part1.4oOdQOpm.6AgXIILb@free.fr"
                                                          alt=""
                                                          class=""></p>
                                                        <pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
(bépo et Ubuntu)</pre>
                                                        <div>Le
                                                          06/08/2022 à
                                                          19:13,
                                                          Jonathan
                                                          Wilkes a
                                                          écrit :<br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>Are you
                                                          pressing that
                                                          key without
                                                          any modifiers
                                                          like ctrl and
                                                          shift?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>-Jonathan<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 12:36 PM Jean-Christophe
                                                          Sekinger <<a
href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jc.sekinger@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>anybody ?<br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
(bépo et Ubuntu)</pre>
                                                          <div>Le
                                                          04/08/2022 à
                                                          07:16,
                                                          Jean-Christophe
                                                          Sekinger a
                                                          écrit :<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <p>thanks</p>
                                                          <p>doesn’t
                                                          work</p>
                                                          <p>part of the
                                                          output with
                                                          xev
                                                          (absolutely
                                                          don’t
                                                          understand it
                                                          — exept
                                                          "KeyPress
                                                          event") when I
                                                          press
                                                          [shift]+["]<br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <pre>KeyPress event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001,
    root 0x1e2, subw 0x0, time 2435198, (289,93), root:(2209,157),
    state 0x10, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
    XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
    XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyPress event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001,
    root 0x1e2, subw 0x0, time 2435965, (289,93), root:(2209,157),
    state 0x11, keycode 10 (keysym 0x31, 1), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (31) "1"
    XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (31) "1"
    XFilterEvent returns: False

</pre>
                                                          <p><br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <pre cols="72">Jean-Christophe Sekinger
19 rue des Pontets, Bordeaux 33000
06 82 09 82 02 / 09 52 12 95 32
<a href="https://jc-sekinger.fr/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://jc-sekinger.fr/</a>
(bépo et Ubuntu)</pre>
                                                          <div>Le
                                                          04/08/2022 à
                                                          07:10,
                                                          Jonathan
                                                          Wilkes a
                                                          écrit :<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <pre>Maybe

"object": { key: "1", modifiers: "shift" },

or

"object": { key: '"', modifiers: "shift" },

-Jonathan


On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 12:49 AM Jean-Christophe Sekinger
<a href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><jc.sekinger@free.fr></a> wrote:
</pre>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <pre>thank you

doesn’t work, neither

"object": { key: '"', modifiers: cmd_or_ctrl },

I would use these key with Shift (not ctrl)
the add menu shows no key shortcut for "object"

any other solution ?


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Le 03/08/2022 à 22:53, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :

shift+"     (1, like in puredata vanilla)

Okay, try changing the

"1"

to

'"'

-Jonathan

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 4:17 PM Jean-Christophe Sekinger
<a href="mailto:jc.sekinger@free.fr" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><jc.sekinger@free.fr></a> wrote:

Press the key that you want to use for the shortcut for "Object" and
email it to me.

-Jonathan

shift+"     (1, like in puredata vanilla)

shift+«     (2…)

shift+»     (3…)

shift+(     (4…)

shift+)     (5…)

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