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    Hello Ico,<br>
    <br>
    Thank you for your answers.<br>
    <br>
    1. Linux Mint 20.2 = Ubuntu 20.04.x and I never had major issue when
    installing Ubuntu's applications on Linux Mint. A significant
    example, Purr Data 2.xx for Ubuntu 20.04 installs without any issue
    on Linux Mint 20.x.<br>
    Name clashes Pd-L2Ork / Purr Data, I cannot comment.<br>
    <br>
    2. Understood.<br>
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    3. Okay.<br>
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    4. I'm not a compilation expert but I will try to do it for my RPI
    400.<br>
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      Best,<br>
      Joseph Gastelais<a href="https://www.linuxrouen.fr/wp/"
        target="_blank"></a><br>
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      Le 22/12/2021 à 07:43, Ico Bukvic a écrit :<br>
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        <div>Hi Joseph,</div>
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        <div dir="auto">Please see my comments below.<br>
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          <div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Best,<br>
            Ico<br>
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            -- <br>
            Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br>
            Director, Creativity + Innovation<br>
            Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology<br>
            <br>
            Virginia Tech<br>
            Creative Technologies in Music<br>
            School of Performing Arts – 0141<br>
            Blacksburg, VA 24061<br>
            (540) 231-6139<br>
            <a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">ico@vt.edu</a><br>
            <br>
            <a href="http://ci.icat.vt.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">ci.icat.vt.edu</a><br>
            <a href="http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">l2ork.icat.vt.edu</a><br>
            <a href="http://ico.bukvic.net" moz-do-not-send="true">ico.bukvic.net</a></div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 21, 2021,
              05:37 Linux ROUEN Normandie <<a
                href="mailto:linux.rouen@free.fr" moz-do-not-send="true">linux.rouen@free.fr</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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              <div> Hello Ico,<br>
                <br>
                Thank you for releasing
                "Pd-L2Ork-2.16.0-20211213-rev.7225397a-x86_64.deb".<br>
                I would like to give it a trial run.<br>
                <br>
                1. <a
                  href="https://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/make-your-own-l2ork/software/"
                  target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">Pd-L2Ork 2.x</a><br>
                This is my 1st ever install attempt of your application.<br>
                Trying to install it under Linux Mint 20.2 Cinnamon
                (based on Ubuntu 20.04), I'm getting from GDebi the
                following warning message:<br>
                "A more recent version is available in a repository.
                It's highly recommended to install the version available
                in the repository for getting a better support."<br>
                But there is no link given.<br>
                - Is it linked to Pd-L2Ork or to the one additional
                package to be installed "python-is-python2" (which is...
                DEPRECATED!)?<br>
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        <div dir="auto">This may be because Purr-Data has not yet
          updated it's naming scheme to prevent name clashes. Another
          issue is that you are trying to install a deb file compiled
          for Ubuntu 20.04, which may not work well or at all.</div>
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                2. L2Ork Compositions & Abstractions<br>
                Your web site displays: "Pd-L2Ork Compositions &
                Abstractions (<u>temporarily down!</u>)".<br>
                Is it normal?<br>
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        <div dir="auto">Yes. Those will be posted at some point in the
          future and are not a part of the pd-l2ork which does include
          L2Ork Tweeter and 2 of the compositions written for it.</div>
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                3. Pd-L2Ork update/upgrade procedure<br>
                Can we install, when available, a new version over an
                old one?<br>
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        <div dir="auto">Yes. You will still encounter name clashes with 
          purr-data until that is fixed on their end. </div>
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                4. Pd-L2Ork for Raspberry Pi<br>
                I'm owning a RPi 400 but it seems there is no version
                2.x available for it, only version 1.x.<br>
                Is it correct?<br>
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        <div dir="auto">I just haven't compiled one for the RPi 400
          because I don't have access to one to test. You should be able
          to compile your own by following the build instructions.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">Hope this helps.</div>
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                Thanks.<br>
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                <div> Best,<br>
                  Joseph Gastelais<br>
                  <a href="https://www.linuxrouen.fr/wp/"
                    target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">LINUX ♥ ROUEN ♥ Normandie</a><br>
                  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
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                  Le 17/08/2021 à 07:31, Ico Bukvic a écrit :<br>
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                  <div dir="auto">
                    <div dir="auto">After over a year of development,
                      Pd-L2Ork is back and is better than ever with a
                      slew of new improvements, including multi-OS
                      support, embedded L2Ork Tweeter, updated K12, and
                      sensel libraries, and much more. Check it out at <a
                        href="https://bit.ly/pd-l2ork" target="_blank"
                        rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://bit.ly/pd-l2ork</a></div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
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                    <div dir="auto">Read on for a somewhat messy
                      changelog:</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Added option for restoring the
                      L2Ork apps in the preferences.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Optimized scrollbar behavior and
                      ensured that the scrollbar toggle button in the
                      canvas properties works properly with the new
                      HTML-based scrollbars.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Integrated first two L2Ork apps,
                      L2Ork Tweeter and a simple monaural voice chat and
                      enabled their copying in the userspace to allow
                      for editing and/or saving of presets, sessions,
                      and patterns.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Updated K12 abstractions and their
                      help files and made them fully compatible with the
                      2.x GUI.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Included sensel external and
                      updated building scripts.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Updated naming scheme pd-l2ork,
                      updated icons and the build script.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where comment with a
                      linebreak splitting a word at a - (e.g.
                      follow-up), removes the -.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Added files opened through browser
                      to the recently open files.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where comments still
                      cannot handle empty lines in between two populated
                      lines.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where locating error on
                      a gop-enabled canvas on a ggee/image does not open
                      the subpatch.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Disabled unwanted pasting of the
                      patch objects while pasting text inside the find
                      box.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Longer messages have a bit of a
                      right offset on the flag. This is true only for
                      certain zoom levels and as such it is a
                      nw.js/chromium limitation.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Weird flashing of the selection
                      outside the box boundaries (whitespaces on the
                      rightmost side of the comment... Likely a nw.js
                      bug) Fixed by hiding the overflow of gui_textarea.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where ; at the end of
                      the comment adds an unnecessary endline.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Made OK inside the text define
                      dialog an event that can be committed with a
                      keyboard shortcut.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where resizing a
                      message box does not update the patchsvg size and
                      therefore truncates the message box's visual
                      appearance.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where resizing GOP in
                      the subpatch does not update outgoing patch cords
                      on the parent canvas.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed binbuf parsing regression
                      that affected the processing of css messages.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed ggee/image regression with
                      updating fields.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Activation of a text object that
                      does not fit on the screen invokes autoscroll.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Selection box autoscrolls when it
                      hits the edge of a scrollable patch.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Find autoscrolls.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where editable
                      gui_textarea gets smaller than its actual width
                      when against the right edge.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Updated seq help file to reflect
                      the tempo message.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where number2
                      decoration saving was not working.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*New ggee/image help file.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*New gatom help file (focus, commit,
                      hard limit).</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Add hard limiting values option for
                      the float gatom.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where comments cannot
                      capture backslashes by themselves (remove them
                      except for those that escape things).</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where last char in the
                      text cannot be a backslash as that will escape the
                      last semicolon</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Added proper sizing of boxes.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Added \v and \n support to objects
                      that allows for multiline comments and objects
                      without requiring manual resizing of the boxes.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*When editing objects whose editable
                      boxes go outside its boundaries, they also need to
                      have their minimum width increased to properly
                      display, as they should outside the right
                      boundary.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*when unfocusing pddplink while
                      selecting a comment, fixed a bug where it still
                      does not properly reinstantiate.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where comment still
                      sometimes has an extra line at the end.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Proper resizing of message and
                      regular boxes that also affects their patch cords.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Escape comma (currently "\," when
                      it should be ",") properly in object names and
                      symbol gatoms.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Creating new object when there is a
                      scrollbar and the object is all the way to the
                      right, makes object less wide than it ought to be.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where resizing
                      subpatch, closing, and then saving, does not
                      retain the subpatch window size.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Moonlib/image is marked defunct
                      (still need some work post ggee/image to make it
                      fully supported).</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Refined mycanvas and image diagonal
                      resize location.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Iemgui dialog fixed background
                      label color not initialized properly</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Image object redesign</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  Alt key release screws up the
                      image selection box</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  Adjusting image size when
                      gop_spill is off, is off</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  Make the gop_spill co-dependent to
                      custom img size, so that gop_spill does not exceed
                      the image size</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    implement and debug aspect ratio
                      option</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    implement border whose
                      visibility is affected by the css (editmode =
                      visible, otherwise invisible), and simplify the
                      code</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Fixed regresseion where cut and
                      paste creates a legacy object...</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Check the help file for
                      regressions--reloading old image changes size
                      FIXED</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Added reset command to reset the
                      image to its original size regardless of the
                      constrain mode</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Enable click 2 mode where it
                      outputs one or zero depending whether it is
                      clicked or not</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Add ability to resize (using
                      "size" command)</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Add rotate option</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Drawing and hiding of the label
                      move element is not properly handled since it is
                      unaware of whether the label has any content or
                      not...</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Label being drawn twice and
                      nlets only after dynamically creating/changing the
                      label text</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Proper let drawing (uses css)</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Added dialog browse and rotate
                      options, bunch of appearance clean-up</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Finish implementing dialog
                      (implement return function)</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Add w/h ratio check when
                      updating the w/h values</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Fixed background label color not
                      initialized properly</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Refined rotation center logic</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Added reset size and re-center
                      buttons</div>
                    <div dir="auto">    Code clean-up (fixed regression
                      where updating size did not resize the image)</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Refined how the objects are created
                      when mouse is out of bounds and how the cursor
                      looks like while object is following the cursor</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed alt key flicker in temporary
                      non-edit mode</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Test ggee/image and fix selection
                      box color (may be responsible for the NaN error
                      inside pdgui.js line 2340)</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Comment does not hide text when
                      being edited (edit multiline one and make it
                      single line and there will be residual text that
                      needs to be hidden)</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*pddplink does not save properly
                      when activated and then deactivated</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Message, textobject, and comment:
                      when edited change their location in the glist
                      which can mess with preset_hub/node assignment.
                      Added a way to compensate for such changes.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  x->ph_extern_file = 1;</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  %wasnode% stored with the patch
                      and re-read when preset_hub_new is invoked</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  when saving, we still use wasnode
                      for backwards compatibility or do we provide a
                      flag?</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  When do we generate was locations,
                      at user's request, or at save-time (if they are
                      not</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  already initialized), or both? At
                      user's request</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  clearfileloc initfileloc
                      updatefileloc</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  IMPORTANT: Node's "was" values
                      replace the node values when saving presets to
                      file</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  update help file</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Add knob to the menu</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Gop and iemgui objects vertical and
                      horizontal resize handles now use the full extent
                      of objects' width and height.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where creating a
                      sub-patch that does not have any scalars and then
                      creating a first object for some reason deletes
                      gop (and it shouldn't)</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Refined gop, mycanvas resize, and
                      iemgui label handles</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Ensured that symbol gatom by
                      default has exclusive access</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Cut/Copy/Paste/SelectAll now works
                      inside the canvas find widget.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*SelectAll on the Console window
                      find widget selects text inside the widget, not
                      the console.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*On Console and Browser find
                      widgets, the widget color auto-updates on special
                      commands like cut and paste that also change the
                      text content.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*On Console and Browser find widgets
                      Enter/Return searches forward, while
                      Shift+Enter/Return searches backwards.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Updated knob help file</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed knob lin/log and limits when
                      autopatching at instantiation time</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed knob inability to slide
                      dynamically created object</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed dynamically created object
                      has a weirdly positioned dial arc (when changing
                      range)</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed knob css issues</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*gop move handle should be refined</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Dialog dropdown update</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed editable msg having a weird
                      vertical line between the main box and the flag
                      (0.24.4 OSX, possibly also Linux)</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fill color on the message right
                      side flag</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Knob dialog should auto-update the
                      values</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Symbol gatom should have ... that
                      are highlighted when one starts editing an empty
                      gatom</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*translation of new dialog items</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*slider also grabs focus and it
                      shouldn't</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*symbol gatom backspace without
                      shift deletes everything (and it shouldn't)</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Complete reworking of numbox while
                      ensuring it remains backwards-compatible:</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  *should revert to max/min after
                      pressing return</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  *typing into activated box with
                      only 0 in it should enter first digit on the first
                      position</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  *Up/Down increments twice</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  *up/down (shift or not) adds >
                      and it shouldn't??? It should since that
                      differentiates it from mouse edits</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  *When activated and all digits are
                      erased, up and down should start from 0</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  *After return when activated if it
                      is not shift-activated, it should start over, not
                      append</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  *Weird initial positioning bug</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  *Numbox not resetting after 3000ms</div>
                    <div dir="auto">  *Numbox not truncating after
                      return is pressed</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*gatom fixes</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*slider fixes</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*window size for Windows needs to be
                      fixed</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*msg cursor on empty msg is
                      different (higher and thicker--but only on
                      pre-0.24.4)</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Disabled coll object's excessive
                      legacy call warnings</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Fixed opendialog being able to open
                      custom paths on Windows</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*Solved bug where activated text obj
                      after it triggers getscroll is positioned
                      pre-scroll</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*magicglass now supports the new GOP
                      drawing instructions</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*mycanvas embedded GOP support and
                      iemgui labels properly colored</div>
                    <div dir="auto">*port iemgui numbox drawing styles
                      from 1.x</div>
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                    <div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Best,<br>
                      <br>
                      Ico<br>
                      <br>
                      -- <br>
                      Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br>
                      Director, Creativity + Innovation<br>
                      Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology<br>
                      <br>
                      Virginia Tech<br>
                      Creative Technologies in Music<br>
                      School of Performing Arts – 0141<br>
                      Blacksburg, VA 24061<br>
                      (540) 231-6139<br>
                      <a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank"
                        rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">ico@vt.edu</a><br>
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                      <a href="http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu" target="_blank"
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                      <a href="http://ico.bukvic.net" target="_blank"
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