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Hello Ico,<br>
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Thank you for your answers.<br>
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1. Linux Mint 20.2 = Ubuntu 20.04.x and I never had major issue when
installing Ubuntu's applications on Linux Mint. A significant
example, Purr Data 2.xx for Ubuntu 20.04 installs without any issue
on Linux Mint 20.x.<br>
Name clashes Pd-L2Ork / Purr Data, I cannot comment.<br>
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2. Understood.<br>
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3. Okay.<br>
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4. I'm not a compilation expert but I will try to do it for my RPI
400.<br>
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Le 22/12/2021 à 07:43, Ico Bukvic a écrit :<br>
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<div>Hi Joseph,</div>
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<div dir="auto">Please see my comments below.<br>
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<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Best,<br>
Ico<br>
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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br>
Director, Creativity + Innovation<br>
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology<br>
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Virginia Tech<br>
Creative Technologies in Music<br>
School of Performing Arts – 0141<br>
Blacksburg, VA 24061<br>
(540) 231-6139<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 21, 2021,
05:37 Linux ROUEN Normandie <<a
href="mailto:linux.rouen@free.fr" moz-do-not-send="true">linux.rouen@free.fr</a>>
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<div> Hello Ico,<br>
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Thank you for releasing
"Pd-L2Ork-2.16.0-20211213-rev.7225397a-x86_64.deb".<br>
I would like to give it a trial run.<br>
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1. <a
href="https://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/make-your-own-l2ork/software/"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">Pd-L2Ork 2.x</a><br>
This is my 1st ever install attempt of your application.<br>
Trying to install it under Linux Mint 20.2 Cinnamon
(based on Ubuntu 20.04), I'm getting from GDebi the
following warning message:<br>
"A more recent version is available in a repository.
It's highly recommended to install the version available
in the repository for getting a better support."<br>
But there is no link given.<br>
- Is it linked to Pd-L2Ork or to the one additional
package to be installed "python-is-python2" (which is...
DEPRECATED!)?<br>
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<div dir="auto">This may be because Purr-Data has not yet
updated it's naming scheme to prevent name clashes. Another
issue is that you are trying to install a deb file compiled
for Ubuntu 20.04, which may not work well or at all.</div>
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2. L2Ork Compositions & Abstractions<br>
Your web site displays: "Pd-L2Ork Compositions &
Abstractions (<u>temporarily down!</u>)".<br>
Is it normal?<br>
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<div dir="auto">Yes. Those will be posted at some point in the
future and are not a part of the pd-l2ork which does include
L2Ork Tweeter and 2 of the compositions written for it.</div>
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3. Pd-L2Ork update/upgrade procedure<br>
Can we install, when available, a new version over an
old one?<br>
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<div dir="auto">Yes. You will still encounter name clashes with
purr-data until that is fixed on their end. </div>
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4. Pd-L2Ork for Raspberry Pi<br>
I'm owning a RPi 400 but it seems there is no version
2.x available for it, only version 1.x.<br>
Is it correct?<br>
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<div dir="auto">I just haven't compiled one for the RPi 400
because I don't have access to one to test. You should be able
to compile your own by following the build instructions.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Hope this helps.</div>
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Thanks.<br>
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Joseph Gastelais<br>
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Le 17/08/2021 à 07:31, Ico Bukvic a écrit :<br>
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<div dir="auto">After over a year of development,
Pd-L2Ork is back and is better than ever with a
slew of new improvements, including multi-OS
support, embedded L2Ork Tweeter, updated K12, and
sensel libraries, and much more. Check it out at <a
href="https://bit.ly/pd-l2ork" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://bit.ly/pd-l2ork</a></div>
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<div dir="auto">Read on for a somewhat messy
changelog:</div>
<div dir="auto">*Added option for restoring the
L2Ork apps in the preferences.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Optimized scrollbar behavior and
ensured that the scrollbar toggle button in the
canvas properties works properly with the new
HTML-based scrollbars.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Integrated first two L2Ork apps,
L2Ork Tweeter and a simple monaural voice chat and
enabled their copying in the userspace to allow
for editing and/or saving of presets, sessions,
and patterns.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Updated K12 abstractions and their
help files and made them fully compatible with the
2.x GUI.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Included sensel external and
updated building scripts.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Updated naming scheme pd-l2ork,
updated icons and the build script.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where comment with a
linebreak splitting a word at a - (e.g.
follow-up), removes the -.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Added files opened through browser
to the recently open files.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where comments still
cannot handle empty lines in between two populated
lines.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where locating error on
a gop-enabled canvas on a ggee/image does not open
the subpatch.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Disabled unwanted pasting of the
patch objects while pasting text inside the find
box.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Longer messages have a bit of a
right offset on the flag. This is true only for
certain zoom levels and as such it is a
nw.js/chromium limitation.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Weird flashing of the selection
outside the box boundaries (whitespaces on the
rightmost side of the comment... Likely a nw.js
bug) Fixed by hiding the overflow of gui_textarea.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where ; at the end of
the comment adds an unnecessary endline.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Made OK inside the text define
dialog an event that can be committed with a
keyboard shortcut.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where resizing a
message box does not update the patchsvg size and
therefore truncates the message box's visual
appearance.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where resizing GOP in
the subpatch does not update outgoing patch cords
on the parent canvas.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed binbuf parsing regression
that affected the processing of css messages.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed ggee/image regression with
updating fields.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Activation of a text object that
does not fit on the screen invokes autoscroll.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Selection box autoscrolls when it
hits the edge of a scrollable patch.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Find autoscrolls.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where editable
gui_textarea gets smaller than its actual width
when against the right edge.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Updated seq help file to reflect
the tempo message.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where number2
decoration saving was not working.</div>
<div dir="auto">*New ggee/image help file.</div>
<div dir="auto">*New gatom help file (focus, commit,
hard limit).</div>
<div dir="auto">*Add hard limiting values option for
the float gatom.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where comments cannot
capture backslashes by themselves (remove them
except for those that escape things).</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where last char in the
text cannot be a backslash as that will escape the
last semicolon</div>
<div dir="auto">*Added proper sizing of boxes.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Added \v and \n support to objects
that allows for multiline comments and objects
without requiring manual resizing of the boxes.</div>
<div dir="auto">*When editing objects whose editable
boxes go outside its boundaries, they also need to
have their minimum width increased to properly
display, as they should outside the right
boundary.</div>
<div dir="auto">*when unfocusing pddplink while
selecting a comment, fixed a bug where it still
does not properly reinstantiate.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where comment still
sometimes has an extra line at the end.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Proper resizing of message and
regular boxes that also affects their patch cords.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Escape comma (currently "\," when
it should be ",") properly in object names and
symbol gatoms.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Creating new object when there is a
scrollbar and the object is all the way to the
right, makes object less wide than it ought to be.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where resizing
subpatch, closing, and then saving, does not
retain the subpatch window size.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Moonlib/image is marked defunct
(still need some work post ggee/image to make it
fully supported).</div>
<div dir="auto">*Refined mycanvas and image diagonal
resize location.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Iemgui dialog fixed background
label color not initialized properly</div>
<div dir="auto">*Image object redesign</div>
<div dir="auto"> Alt key release screws up the
image selection box</div>
<div dir="auto"> Adjusting image size when
gop_spill is off, is off</div>
<div dir="auto"> Make the gop_spill co-dependent to
custom img size, so that gop_spill does not exceed
the image size</div>
<div dir="auto"> implement and debug aspect ratio
option</div>
<div dir="auto"> implement border whose
visibility is affected by the css (editmode =
visible, otherwise invisible), and simplify the
code</div>
<div dir="auto"> Fixed regresseion where cut and
paste creates a legacy object...</div>
<div dir="auto"> Check the help file for
regressions--reloading old image changes size
FIXED</div>
<div dir="auto"> Added reset command to reset the
image to its original size regardless of the
constrain mode</div>
<div dir="auto"> Enable click 2 mode where it
outputs one or zero depending whether it is
clicked or not</div>
<div dir="auto"> Add ability to resize (using
"size" command)</div>
<div dir="auto"> Add rotate option</div>
<div dir="auto"> Drawing and hiding of the label
move element is not properly handled since it is
unaware of whether the label has any content or
not...</div>
<div dir="auto"> Label being drawn twice and
nlets only after dynamically creating/changing the
label text</div>
<div dir="auto"> Proper let drawing (uses css)</div>
<div dir="auto"> Added dialog browse and rotate
options, bunch of appearance clean-up</div>
<div dir="auto"> Finish implementing dialog
(implement return function)</div>
<div dir="auto"> Add w/h ratio check when
updating the w/h values</div>
<div dir="auto"> Fixed background label color not
initialized properly</div>
<div dir="auto"> Refined rotation center logic</div>
<div dir="auto"> Added reset size and re-center
buttons</div>
<div dir="auto"> Code clean-up (fixed regression
where updating size did not resize the image)</div>
<div dir="auto">*Refined how the objects are created
when mouse is out of bounds and how the cursor
looks like while object is following the cursor</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed alt key flicker in temporary
non-edit mode</div>
<div dir="auto">*Test ggee/image and fix selection
box color (may be responsible for the NaN error
inside pdgui.js line 2340)</div>
<div dir="auto">*Comment does not hide text when
being edited (edit multiline one and make it
single line and there will be residual text that
needs to be hidden)</div>
<div dir="auto">*pddplink does not save properly
when activated and then deactivated</div>
<div dir="auto">*Message, textobject, and comment:
when edited change their location in the glist
which can mess with preset_hub/node assignment.
Added a way to compensate for such changes.</div>
<div dir="auto"> x->ph_extern_file = 1;</div>
<div dir="auto"> %wasnode% stored with the patch
and re-read when preset_hub_new is invoked</div>
<div dir="auto"> when saving, we still use wasnode
for backwards compatibility or do we provide a
flag?</div>
<div dir="auto"> When do we generate was locations,
at user's request, or at save-time (if they are
not</div>
<div dir="auto"> already initialized), or both? At
user's request</div>
<div dir="auto"> clearfileloc initfileloc
updatefileloc</div>
<div dir="auto"> IMPORTANT: Node's "was" values
replace the node values when saving presets to
file</div>
<div dir="auto"> update help file</div>
<div dir="auto">*Add knob to the menu</div>
<div dir="auto">*Gop and iemgui objects vertical and
horizontal resize handles now use the full extent
of objects' width and height.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where creating a
sub-patch that does not have any scalars and then
creating a first object for some reason deletes
gop (and it shouldn't)</div>
<div dir="auto">*Refined gop, mycanvas resize, and
iemgui label handles</div>
<div dir="auto">*Ensured that symbol gatom by
default has exclusive access</div>
<div dir="auto">*Cut/Copy/Paste/SelectAll now works
inside the canvas find widget.</div>
<div dir="auto">*SelectAll on the Console window
find widget selects text inside the widget, not
the console.</div>
<div dir="auto">*On Console and Browser find
widgets, the widget color auto-updates on special
commands like cut and paste that also change the
text content.</div>
<div dir="auto">*On Console and Browser find widgets
Enter/Return searches forward, while
Shift+Enter/Return searches backwards.</div>
<div dir="auto">*Updated knob help file</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed knob lin/log and limits when
autopatching at instantiation time</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed knob inability to slide
dynamically created object</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed dynamically created object
has a weirdly positioned dial arc (when changing
range)</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed knob css issues</div>
<div dir="auto">*gop move handle should be refined</div>
<div dir="auto">*Dialog dropdown update</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed editable msg having a weird
vertical line between the main box and the flag
(0.24.4 OSX, possibly also Linux)</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fill color on the message right
side flag</div>
<div dir="auto">*Knob dialog should auto-update the
values</div>
<div dir="auto">*Symbol gatom should have ... that
are highlighted when one starts editing an empty
gatom</div>
<div dir="auto">*translation of new dialog items</div>
<div dir="auto">*slider also grabs focus and it
shouldn't</div>
<div dir="auto">*symbol gatom backspace without
shift deletes everything (and it shouldn't)</div>
<div dir="auto">*Complete reworking of numbox while
ensuring it remains backwards-compatible:</div>
<div dir="auto"> *should revert to max/min after
pressing return</div>
<div dir="auto"> *typing into activated box with
only 0 in it should enter first digit on the first
position</div>
<div dir="auto"> *Up/Down increments twice</div>
<div dir="auto"> *up/down (shift or not) adds >
and it shouldn't??? It should since that
differentiates it from mouse edits</div>
<div dir="auto"> *When activated and all digits are
erased, up and down should start from 0</div>
<div dir="auto"> *After return when activated if it
is not shift-activated, it should start over, not
append</div>
<div dir="auto"> *Weird initial positioning bug</div>
<div dir="auto"> *Numbox not resetting after 3000ms</div>
<div dir="auto"> *Numbox not truncating after
return is pressed</div>
<div dir="auto">*gatom fixes</div>
<div dir="auto">*slider fixes</div>
<div dir="auto">*window size for Windows needs to be
fixed</div>
<div dir="auto">*msg cursor on empty msg is
different (higher and thicker--but only on
pre-0.24.4)</div>
<div dir="auto">*Disabled coll object's excessive
legacy call warnings</div>
<div dir="auto">*Fixed opendialog being able to open
custom paths on Windows</div>
<div dir="auto">*Solved bug where activated text obj
after it triggers getscroll is positioned
pre-scroll</div>
<div dir="auto">*magicglass now supports the new GOP
drawing instructions</div>
<div dir="auto">*mycanvas embedded GOP support and
iemgui labels properly colored</div>
<div dir="auto">*port iemgui numbox drawing styles
from 1.x</div>
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<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Best,<br>
<br>
Ico<br>
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-- <br>
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br>
Director, Creativity + Innovation<br>
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology<br>
<br>
Virginia Tech<br>
Creative Technologies in Music<br>
School of Performing Arts – 0141<br>
Blacksburg, VA 24061<br>
(540) 231-6139<br>
<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">ico@vt.edu</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://ci.icat.vt.edu" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">ci.icat.vt.edu</a><br>
<a href="http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">l2ork.icat.vt.edu</a><br>
<a href="http://ico.bukvic.net" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">ico.bukvic.net</a></div>
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