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    Hello Ico,<br>
    <br>
    As I wrote it in my previous email: Linux Mint 20.2 = Ubuntu 20.04.
    So ?<br>
    And Purr Data for Ubuntu 20.04.x is installing and working without
    any issue on Linux Mint 20.02.<br>
    <br>
    Nevertheless, even if I'm not a compilation expert, I will try to
    build Pd-L2Ork by my own. Cross fingers!<br>
    <br>
    Best,<br>
    Joseph<br>
    <div class="moz-signature">- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 22/12/2021 à 07:46, Ico Bukvic a
      écrit :<br>
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cite="mid:CAJrgGbbYaOq2+7Mm-gDsObbp+biQnAWst6R8iKEqX_ZbL8M07w@mail.gmail.com">
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        <div>I think the install issue is because this is a deb built
          for Ubuntu 20.04, not your distro. The other issue is the
          aforesaid name clashing by the Purr-Data. You need to build
          your own. Hope this helps.<br>
          <br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 21, 2021,
              18:32 Linux ROUEN Normandie <<a
                href="mailto:linux.rouen@free.fr" moz-do-not-send="true">linux.rouen@free.fr</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
              <div> Hello Ico,<br>
                <br>
                In add to my previous here below email regarding
                "Pd-L2Ork-2.16.0-20211213-rev.7225397a-x86_64.deb".<br>
                <br>
                1. Installing Pd-L2Ork 2.x using "GDebi" is not working.<br>
                I'm getting the following long error message.<br>
                """""<br>
                Traceback (most recent call last):<br>
                  File
                "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker/aptworker.py",
                line 1055, in _apply_changes<br>
                    self._cache.commit(fetch_progress, inst_progress,<br>
                  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/apt/cache.py",
                line 686, in commit<br>
                    raise SystemError("installArchives() failed")<br>
                SystemError: installArchives() failed<br>
                <br>
                During handling of the above exception, another
                exception occurred:<br>
                Traceback (most recent call last):<br>
                  File
                "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker/aptworker.py",
                line 1084, in _frozen_status<br>
                    yield<br>
                  File
                "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker/aptworker.py",
                line 1071, in _apply_changes<br>
                    raise
                TransactionFailed(ERROR_PACKAGE_MANAGER_FAILED,<br>
                aptdaemon.errors.TransactionFailed: Transaction failed:
                Package operation failed<br>
                installArchives() failed: Selecting previously
                unselected package python-is-python2.<br>
                (Reading database ...<br>
                dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:<br>
                 loading files list file for package
                'indicator-cpufreq': cannot read
                /var/lib/dpkg/info/indicator-cpufreq.list (Input/output
                error)<br>
                <br>
                During handling of the above exception, another
                exception occurred:<br>
                Traceback (most recent call last):<br>
                  File
                "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker/aptworker.py",
                line 1084, in _frozen_status<br>
                    yield<br>
                  File
                "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker/aptworker.py",
                line 660, in install_file<br>
                    self._apply_changes(trans, fetch_range=(15, 33),<br>
                  File
                "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker/aptworker.py",
                line 1074, in _apply_changes<br>
                    trans.output += inst_progress.output<br>
                  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/contextlib.py", line 131, in
                __exit__<br>
                    self.gen.throw(type, value, traceback)<br>
                  File
                "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker/aptworker.py",
                line 1086, in _frozen_status<br>
                    shutil.rmtree(frozen_dir)<br>
                  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/shutil.py", line 718, in
                rmtree<br>
                    _rmtree_safe_fd(fd, path, onerror)<br>
                  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/shutil.py", line 675, in
                _rmtree_safe_fd<br>
                    onerror(os.unlink, fullname, sys.exc_info())<br>
                  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/shutil.py", line 673, in
                _rmtree_safe_fd<br>
                    os.unlink(<a href="http://entry.name"
                  target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">entry.name</a>, dir_fd=topfd)<br>
                OSError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: 'status'<br>
                <br>
                During handling of the above exception, another
                exception occurred:<br>
                Traceback (most recent call last):<br>
                  File
                "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker/__init__.py",
                line 128, in _run_transaction_idle<br>
                    self._run_transaction(trans)<br>
                  File
                "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker/aptworker.py",
                line 280, in _run_transaction<br>
                    self.install_file(trans, **trans.kwargs)<br>
                  File
                "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker/aptworker.py",
                line 667, in install_file<br>
                    raise
                TransactionFailed(ERROR_PACKAGE_MANAGER_FAILED,<br>
                  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/contextlib.py", line 131, in
                __exit__<br>
                    self.gen.throw(type, value, traceback)<br>
                  File
                "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker/aptworker.py",
                line 1086, in _frozen_status<br>
                    shutil.rmtree(frozen_dir)<br>
                  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/shutil.py", line 718, in
                rmtree<br>
                    _rmtree_safe_fd(fd, path, onerror)<br>
                  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/shutil.py", line 675, in
                _rmtree_safe_fd<br>
                    onerror(os.unlink, fullname, sys.exc_info())<br>
                  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/shutil.py", line 673, in
                _rmtree_safe_fd<br>
                    os.unlink(<a href="http://entry.name"
                  target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">entry.name</a>, dir_fd=topfd)<br>
                OSError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: 'status'<br>
                """""<br>
                <br>
                2. Installing Pd-L2Ork with "sudo dpkg -i pd-l2ork*deb"
                from where the package is downloaded is not working too.<br>
                I'm getting the following error message.<br>
                " " " " "<br>
                root@mint20:/home/joe/Téléchargements# sudo dpkg -i
                pd-l2ork*deb<br>
                dpkg: erreur: unable to access the dpkg database
                directory /var/lib/dpkg: Système de fichiers accessible
                en lecture seulement (files system accessible only in
                read mode).<br>
                " " " " "<br>
                <br>
                3. For your information<br>
                - Both Pure Data v.0.50.2 and Purr Data v.2.17.0 are
                installed on my PC and they were working well under
                Linux Mint 20.2 Cinnamon 64-bit.<br>
                - But after I tried to install Pd-L2Ork 2.x on my
                machine, I was not able to launch Purr Data anymore. I
                needed to restart my PC for getting Purr Data back to
                life.<br>
                - Pure Data was still okay.<br>
                <br>
                Thanks.<br>
                - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
                Best,<br>
                Joseph Gastelais<br>
                LINUX ♥ ROUEN ♥ Normandie<br>
                - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
                <div><br>
                  Le 21/12/2021 à 11:37, Linux ROUEN Normandie a écrit :<br>
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                <blockquote type="cite"> Hello Ico,<br>
                  <br>
                  Thank you for releasing
                  "Pd-L2Ork-2.16.0-20211213-rev.7225397a-x86_64.deb".<br>
                  I would like to give it a trial run.<br>
                  <br>
                  1. <a
                    href="https://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/make-your-own-l2ork/software/"
                    target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">Pd-L2Ork 2.x</a><br>
                  This is my 1st ever install attempt of your
                  application.<br>
                  Trying to install it under Linux Mint 20.2 Cinnamon
                  (based on Ubuntu 20.04), I'm getting from GDebi the
                  following warning message:<br>
                  "A more recent version is available in a repository.
                  It's highly recommended to install the version
                  available in the repository for getting a better
                  support."<br>
                  But there is no link given.<br>
                  - Is it linked to Pd-L2Ork or to the one additional
                  package to be installed "python-is-python2" (which
                  is... DEPRECATED!)?<br>
                  <br>
                  2. L2Ork Compositions & Abstractions<br>
                  Your web site displays: "Pd-L2Ork Compositions &
                  Abstractions (<u>temporarily down!</u>)".<br>
                  Is it normal?<br>
                  <br>
                  3. Pd-L2Ork update/upgrade procedure<br>
                  Can we install, when available, a new version over an
                  old one?<br>
                  <br>
                  4. Pd-L2Ork for Raspberry Pi<br>
                  I'm owning a RPi 400 but it seems there is no version
                  2.x available for it, only version 1.x.<br>
                  Is it correct?<br>
                  <br>
                  Thanks.<br>
                  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
                  <div> Best,<br>
                    Joseph Gastelais<br>
                    <a href="https://www.linuxrouen.fr/wp/"
                      target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">LINUX ♥ ROUEN ♥ Normandie</a><br>
                    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                    Le 17/08/2021 à 07:31, Ico Bukvic a écrit :<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div dir="auto">
                      <div dir="auto">After over a year of development,
                        Pd-L2Ork is back and is better than ever with a
                        slew of new improvements, including multi-OS
                        support, embedded L2Ork Tweeter, updated K12,
                        and sensel libraries, and much more. Check it
                        out at <a href="https://bit.ly/pd-l2ork"
                          target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://bit.ly/pd-l2ork</a></div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto">Read on for a somewhat messy
                        changelog:</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Added option for restoring the
                        L2Ork apps in the preferences.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Optimized scrollbar behavior and
                        ensured that the scrollbar toggle button in the
                        canvas properties works properly with the new
                        HTML-based scrollbars.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Integrated first two L2Ork apps,
                        L2Ork Tweeter and a simple monaural voice chat
                        and enabled their copying in the userspace to
                        allow for editing and/or saving of presets,
                        sessions, and patterns.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Updated K12 abstractions and
                        their help files and made them fully compatible
                        with the 2.x GUI.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Included sensel external and
                        updated building scripts.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Updated naming scheme pd-l2ork,
                        updated icons and the build script.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where comment with a
                        linebreak splitting a word at a - (e.g.
                        follow-up), removes the -.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Added files opened through
                        browser to the recently open files.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where comments still
                        cannot handle empty lines in between two
                        populated lines.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where locating error
                        on a gop-enabled canvas on a ggee/image does not
                        open the subpatch.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Disabled unwanted pasting of the
                        patch objects while pasting text inside the find
                        box.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Longer messages have a bit of a
                        right offset on the flag. This is true only for
                        certain zoom levels and as such it is a
                        nw.js/chromium limitation.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Weird flashing of the selection
                        outside the box boundaries (whitespaces on the
                        rightmost side of the comment... Likely a nw.js
                        bug) Fixed by hiding the overflow of
                        gui_textarea.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where ; at the end of
                        the comment adds an unnecessary endline.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Made OK inside the text define
                        dialog an event that can be committed with a
                        keyboard shortcut.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where resizing a
                        message box does not update the patchsvg size
                        and therefore truncates the message box's visual
                        appearance.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where resizing GOP in
                        the subpatch does not update outgoing patch
                        cords on the parent canvas.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed binbuf parsing regression
                        that affected the processing of css messages.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed ggee/image regression with
                        updating fields.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Activation of a text object that
                        does not fit on the screen invokes autoscroll.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Selection box autoscrolls when it
                        hits the edge of a scrollable patch.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Find autoscrolls.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where editable
                        gui_textarea gets smaller than its actual width
                        when against the right edge.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Updated seq help file to reflect
                        the tempo message.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where number2
                        decoration saving was not working.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*New ggee/image help file.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*New gatom help file (focus,
                        commit, hard limit).</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Add hard limiting values option
                        for the float gatom.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where comments cannot
                        capture backslashes by themselves (remove them
                        except for those that escape things).</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where last char in
                        the text cannot be a backslash as that will
                        escape the last semicolon</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Added proper sizing of boxes.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Added \v and \n support to
                        objects that allows for multiline comments and
                        objects without requiring manual resizing of the
                        boxes.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*When editing objects whose
                        editable boxes go outside its boundaries, they
                        also need to have their minimum width increased
                        to properly display, as they should outside the
                        right boundary.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*when unfocusing pddplink while
                        selecting a comment, fixed a bug where it still
                        does not properly reinstantiate.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where comment still
                        sometimes has an extra line at the end.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Proper resizing of message and
                        regular boxes that also affects their patch
                        cords.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Escape comma (currently "\," when
                        it should be ",") properly in object names and
                        symbol gatoms.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Creating new object when there is
                        a scrollbar and the object is all the way to the
                        right, makes object less wide than it ought to
                        be.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where resizing
                        subpatch, closing, and then saving, does not
                        retain the subpatch window size.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Moonlib/image is marked defunct
                        (still need some work post ggee/image to make it
                        fully supported).</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Refined mycanvas and image
                        diagonal resize location.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Iemgui dialog fixed background
                        label color not initialized properly</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Image object redesign</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  Alt key release screws up the
                        image selection box</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  Adjusting image size when
                        gop_spill is off, is off</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  Make the gop_spill co-dependent
                        to custom img size, so that gop_spill does not
                        exceed the image size</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    implement and debug aspect
                        ratio option</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    implement border whose
                        visibility is affected by the css (editmode =
                        visible, otherwise invisible), and simplify the
                        code</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Fixed regresseion where cut
                        and paste creates a legacy object...</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Check the help file for
                        regressions--reloading old image changes size
                        FIXED</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Added reset command to reset
                        the image to its original size regardless of the
                        constrain mode</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Enable click 2 mode where it
                        outputs one or zero depending whether it is
                        clicked or not</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Add ability to resize (using
                        "size" command)</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Add rotate option</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Drawing and hiding of the
                        label move element is not properly handled since
                        it is unaware of whether the label has any
                        content or not...</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Label being drawn twice and
                        nlets only after dynamically creating/changing
                        the label text</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Proper let drawing (uses css)</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Added dialog browse and rotate
                        options, bunch of appearance clean-up</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Finish implementing dialog
                        (implement return function)</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Add w/h ratio check when
                        updating the w/h values</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Fixed background label color
                        not initialized properly</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Refined rotation center logic</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Added reset size and re-center
                        buttons</div>
                      <div dir="auto">    Code clean-up (fixed
                        regression where updating size did not resize
                        the image)</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Refined how the objects are
                        created when mouse is out of bounds and how the
                        cursor looks like while object is following the
                        cursor</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed alt key flicker in
                        temporary non-edit mode</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Test ggee/image and fix selection
                        box color (may be responsible for the NaN error
                        inside pdgui.js line 2340)</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Comment does not hide text when
                        being edited (edit multiline one and make it
                        single line and there will be residual text that
                        needs to be hidden)</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*pddplink does not save properly
                        when activated and then deactivated</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Message, textobject, and comment:
                        when edited change their location in the glist
                        which can mess with preset_hub/node assignment.
                        Added a way to compensate for such changes.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  x->ph_extern_file = 1;</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  %wasnode% stored with the patch
                        and re-read when preset_hub_new is invoked</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  when saving, we still use
                        wasnode for backwards compatibility or do we
                        provide a flag?</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  When do we generate was
                        locations, at user's request, or at save-time
                        (if they are not</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  already initialized), or both?
                        At user's request</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  clearfileloc initfileloc
                        updatefileloc</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  IMPORTANT: Node's "was" values
                        replace the node values when saving presets to
                        file</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  update help file</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Add knob to the menu</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Gop and iemgui objects vertical
                        and horizontal resize handles now use the full
                        extent of objects' width and height.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed a bug where creating a
                        sub-patch that does not have any scalars and
                        then creating a first object for some reason
                        deletes gop (and it shouldn't)</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Refined gop, mycanvas resize, and
                        iemgui label handles</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Ensured that symbol gatom by
                        default has exclusive access</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Cut/Copy/Paste/SelectAll now
                        works inside the canvas find widget.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*SelectAll on the Console window
                        find widget selects text inside the widget, not
                        the console.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*On Console and Browser find
                        widgets, the widget color auto-updates on
                        special commands like cut and paste that also
                        change the text content.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*On Console and Browser find
                        widgets Enter/Return searches forward, while
                        Shift+Enter/Return searches backwards.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Updated knob help file</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed knob lin/log and limits
                        when autopatching at instantiation time</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed knob inability to slide
                        dynamically created object</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed dynamically created object
                        has a weirdly positioned dial arc (when changing
                        range)</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed knob css issues</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*gop move handle should be refined</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Dialog dropdown update</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed editable msg having a weird
                        vertical line between the main box and the flag
                        (0.24.4 OSX, possibly also Linux)</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fill color on the message right
                        side flag</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Knob dialog should auto-update
                        the values</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Symbol gatom should have ... that
                        are highlighted when one starts editing an empty
                        gatom</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*translation of new dialog items</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*slider also grabs focus and it
                        shouldn't</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*symbol gatom backspace without
                        shift deletes everything (and it shouldn't)</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Complete reworking of numbox
                        while ensuring it remains backwards-compatible:</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  *should revert to max/min after
                        pressing return</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  *typing into activated box with
                        only 0 in it should enter first digit on the
                        first position</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  *Up/Down increments twice</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  *up/down (shift or not) adds
                        > and it shouldn't??? It should since that
                        differentiates it from mouse edits</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  *When activated and all digits
                        are erased, up and down should start from 0</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  *After return when activated if
                        it is not shift-activated, it should start over,
                        not append</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  *Weird initial positioning bug</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  *Numbox not resetting after
                        3000ms</div>
                      <div dir="auto">  *Numbox not truncating after
                        return is pressed</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*gatom fixes</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*slider fixes</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*window size for Windows needs to
                        be fixed</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*msg cursor on empty msg is
                        different (higher and thicker--but only on
                        pre-0.24.4)</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Disabled coll object's excessive
                        legacy call warnings</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Fixed opendialog being able to
                        open custom paths on Windows</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*Solved bug where activated text
                        obj after it triggers getscroll is positioned
                        pre-scroll</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*magicglass now supports the new
                        GOP drawing instructions</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*mycanvas embedded GOP support and
                        iemgui labels properly colored</div>
                      <div dir="auto">*port iemgui numbox drawing styles
                        from 1.x</div>
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                        Ico<br>
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                        Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br>
                        Director, Creativity + Innovation<br>
                        Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology<br>
                        <br>
                        Virginia Tech<br>
                        Creative Technologies in Music<br>
                        School of Performing Arts – 0141<br>
                        Blacksburg, VA 24061<br>
                        (540) 231-6139<br>
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