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Hello Albert,<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks for your latest info.<br>
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Unfortunately (for me) the estimated delivery date for the
Raspberry Pi 400 (French version) has now shift to the 2nd half of
December (best case).<br>
UK/US keyboard versions are served first. And who knows what could
happen in 2021 with BoJo deciding to freeze all deliveries to the
old continent (Brexit - synonymous with tariffs and quotas among
other things).<br>
I could/should have to reconsider my choice.<br>
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Best, Joseph<br>
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<div>Yes, it has by default <a
href="https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PXL_20201102_161143562-1440x1009.jpg"
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radiator</a> (the size of the keyboard) on top of the
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<div>Ok, I see. Looks like this is good enough to even run the
cpu at a higher default clock speed, so it should be fine.
This was a problem that plagued the original Pi4 which is
why you see so many 3rd party cases with active cooling
solutions on the market; I have one of those as well.<br>
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<div> Okay. I will need to check if the Raspberry Pi OS
delivered with the rPi 400 is a 32 or 64-bit OS. Currently
on the download page of the Foundation it's a 32-bit.<br>
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<div>Yep, that's the official distribution, it used to be
called Raspbian before.<br>
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<div> In the meantime I'm learning that now <a
href="https://manjaro.org/downloads/arm/raspberry-pi-4/arm8-raspberry-pi-4-kde-plasma/"
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(20.10) and <a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Ubuntu Desktop</a>
(20.10) are official versions for the rPi 4 / rPi 400, but
both are only in 64-bit. So based on above they will not
be compatible with the current Purr Data for rPi.<br>
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<div>No, they won't. But the OBS has aarch64 build targets for
both Manjaro and Ubuntu. I'm not sure whether these will
work, but if anyone is willing to test them out, just let me
know and I'll enable these targets.</div>
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<div>You don't have to do any of that. Just plug the
USB device into the Pi, configure it as the ALSA
(or Jack) audio I/O and you should be set. That
way you can keep using the built-in soundcard for
other purposes. If you disable the built-in
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<div> I'm currently using either <a
href="https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B01BNQERRQ/ref=pe_3044141_185740131_TE_item"
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<div>Yeah, those will work fine, just as well as
pretty much any of those cheap USB audio devices.</div>
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<div>Good luck, and let us know how Purr works on
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<div>Now, I will need to wait at least 4-5 weeks
before getting my Raspberry Pi 400 Kit
(AZERTY) as it's currently (already) in stock
shortage.<br>
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<div>Last time I tested Purr on the Pi4, it
worked fine there. That was quite some
time ago, though (probably around Purr
2.9/2.10), so you'll have to give it a go
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<div> The only issue I remember was with the
rather lousy built-in soundcard of the
Pi4, which can be overcome with a cheap
external USB audio device (e.g., <a
href="https://www.amazon.fr/UGREEN-Adaptateur-Compatible-Raspberry-Microphone/dp/B01N905VOY"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.amazon.fr/UGREEN-Adaptateur-Compatible-Raspberry-Microphone/dp/B01N905VOY</a>
is the one that I often use, but any
half-decent USB sound device should do the
trick).</div>
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<div>Good luck!</div>
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<div> Hello to the List,<br>
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I'm looking for an additional, very
affordable but enough powerful PC
under GNU/Linux for CAM
(computer-aided music), Programming,
Home automation, etc.<br>
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Currently my choice is going for the <a
href="https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-400/?resellerType=home"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">very new
Raspberry Pi 400</a> with Raspberry
Pi OS, a Raspberry Pi 4 that has been
integrated into a keyboard, with a
complete kit priced at ~ 100 € here in
Europe (106.50 € Tax incl. in France).<br>
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Questions:<br>
- Has anyone tested Purr Data with the
Raspberry Pi 4 (Debian or other
distros)?<br>
- If yes, what was your experience,
pros and cons?<br>
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Thanks a lot.<br>
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Joseph Gastelais<br>
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