<div dir="ltr">Glad that you got it sorted out in the end, congrats. :)<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 9:36 PM Alberto Zin <<a href="mailto:alberto.zin@gmail.com">alberto.zin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Albert, list,<br></div><div><br></div><div>it seems that thanks to your suggestions I solved my issue! It was a wrong (???) image external that loaded before ggee image:</div><div>(since I had set it before ggee stuff in my startup path). In particular it was the moonlib's image.pd_linux external, <br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace">/opt/purr-data/lib/pd-l2ork/extra/moonlib/image.pd_linux</span></div><div><br></div><div>removing that line in the path now the correct external loads and everything is fine.</div><div>That made my day :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again,</div><div><br></div><div></div><div>Alberto<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno mer 21 ott 2020 alle ore 05:58 Albert Graef <<a href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com" target="_blank">aggraef@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 10:19 PM Alberto Zin <<a href="mailto:alberto.zin@gmail.com" target="_blank">alberto.zin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I tried instead by invoking [ggee/image fig0.gif] and I got the message:<div><pre id="gmail-m_-3964434938018384027gmail-m_-7253948610261377201gmail-m_1137413284350976742gmail-p1" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;white-space:pre-wrap"><span><span>[2] </span>legacy tcl command at 239 of gui/image.c: .x736ab070.c create prect 160 -28 510 440 -tags 73772ae0SEL -strokewidth 1 -stroke $pd_colors(selection)
</span><span><span></span>legacy tcl command at 239 of gui/image.c: .x736ab070.c create prect 284 -21 634 447 -tags 73772ae0SEL -strokewidth 1 -stroke $pd_colors(selection)<br></span></pre></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I also get these, they're harmless if somewhat annoying -- they just indicate that there's still some useless Tcl cruft left in that external, which gets invoked if you create the object or click on it in edit mode. In any case these don't impact the rendering of the image, at least not for me.</div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><pre id="gmail-m_-3964434938018384027gmail-m_-7253948610261377201gmail-m_1137413284350976742gmail-p1" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;white-space:pre-wrap"><span></span></pre></div><div><div></div><div>but at least the patch opens properly and everything seems fine.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If [ggee/image] works for you, but just [image] doesn't, and also doesn't print those legacy tcl messages when you click on it in edit mode, then that's suspicious. Could it be that you have another 3rd party "image" object (external or abstraction) somewhere on the standard search path that for some reason slows or blocks the loading?</div><div><br></div><div> Run a little test patch with just [image fig0.gif] with `purr-data -verbose` and look for a line like:</div><div><br></div><div>tried /opt/purr-data/lib/pd-l2ork/extra/ggee/image.pd_linux and succeeded</div><div><br></div><div>If you have *exactly* that line, then the external loads from the right place. If the line looks different, or it never gets to the point where it succeeds loading the external, then you're probably getting the wrong one.<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Possibly an issue with my (old, 2011) HW?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Could be, but I doubt it. I just tried the test patch you provided on my olden but golden 2012 MB Pro, which isn't the beefiest machine either by today's standards, and your
smeck_azgui.pd test patch loads and works just fine there.</div><div><br></div><div>Or maybe it's just something else in your patch that's not in the test patch you provided, or even something in your Pd environment we haven't thought of yet. It's hard to say without sitting at your laptop. ;-)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Albert<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Thanks again,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Alberto<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno lun 19 ott 2020 alle ore 20:03 Albert Graef <<a href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com" target="_blank">aggraef@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>FWIW, your smeck_azgui.pd patch opens fine for me as well (on Manjaro).</div><div><br></div><div>But you seem to be running a different version of the patch there, because I'm not getting those "print setwaveform10" messages, and no messages from bonk, sigmund~ or partconv~ either. Also I see that you're trying to load hexloader there, but I don't think that we even ship that any more:</div><div><br></div><div><div><img src="cid:ii_kgguifzc0" alt="image.png" width="476" height="416"><br></div><div><br></div><div>Maybe try to reset your preferences, sometimes that helps. At least it should get your load paths / startup libraries sorted out.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>Albert<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 10:37 PM Alberto Zin <<a href="mailto:alberto.zin@gmail.com" target="_blank">alberto.zin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>woops, sorry. Now it's public.</div><div><br></div><div>Alberto<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno dom 18 ott 2020 alle ore 22:25 Linux ROUEN Normandie <<a href="mailto:linux.rouen@free.fr" target="_blank">linux.rouen@free.fr</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
Ciao Alberto,<br>
<div><br>
I can't watch your video as it's private and I don't have a
YouTube account.<br>
<br>
Joseph<br>
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<div>Le 18/10/2020 à 20:11, Alberto Zin a
écrit :<br>
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<div>Hello Joseph and thanks for your feedback.</div>
<div>I managed to upload a video on youtube, this is the link:</div>
<div>
<div><span><a href="https://youtu.be/JX-Niqy4Usc" target="_blank"> https://youtu.be/JX-Niqy4Usc </a><br>
</span></div>
<div>It's 2 minutes video, showing what
happens on my side. <br>
</div>
<div>Could it be an HW issue on my side? <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks again for the support.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Alberto<br>
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ore 16:08 Linux ROUEN Normandie <<a href="mailto:linux.rouen@free.fr" target="_blank">linux.rouen@free.fr</a>>
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<div> Ciao Alberto,<br>
<br>
<div>So under my Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon, your smeck_azgui.pd
with fig0.gif (in the same folder) opens quickly and
correctly.<br>
After playing with it a little bit, I can edit / move /
save all the objects including the canvas without any
(visible) issue.<br>
<br>
The only one thing is with the image not having a
selection border when clicking on it. This is a known bug.<br>
And we get in the console: "legacy tcl command at 239 of
gui/image.c: .x33da49a0.c create prect 990 38 1340 506
-tags 33e1cc50SEL -strokewidth 1 -stroke
$pd_colors(selection)". This is also a known bug.<br>
<br>
The "iemgui warning message" you/we get is linked to what
Albert has written you yesterday and it's normal and not
affecting the good functioning of Purr Data.<br>
<br>
So, I'm sorry but I cannot reproduce the bug you have
reported.<br>
Wait for Albert and/or Jonathan suggestions.<br>
<br>
Best, Joseph<br>
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<div>hello,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I noticed that part of my issues (blank canvas on
opening) was related to having an image on the canvas,
like:<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>#X obj 1165 272 image ./doc/fig0.gif 0;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>removing that line the canvas opens quickly but I
cannot move slides, number boxes etc.In my case the
gui is totally unresponsive.</div>
<div>Saving the patch, restarting pd ==> everything
seems to be fine. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I attach the example patch (with the path to the
image at the same level w.r.t. the patch) and the
associated image file.</div>
<div>In my case the attached patch does the following:</div>
<div>1. starts completely blank</div>
<div>2. clicking on save all the elements on the patch
appear (but not all!) and the message:</div>
<div>
<pre id="gmail-m_-3964434938018384027gmail-m_-7253948610261377201gmail-m_1137413284350976742gmail-m_-7908600571989334565gmail-m_-6427111790072793306gmail-m_-6621675846676307987gmail-m_1930075855687454321gmail-p1" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;white-space:pre-wrap"><span>warning: saving iemgui colors as hex symbol. These colors are readable in Pd Vanilla since 0.47, but they are not readable in Purr Data version 2.12.0 or earlier. If you need to remain compatible with older versions of Purr Data please run in compatibility mode with Vanilla version 0.47 like this:</span></pre>
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<div>Is triggered. Numberboxes are unresponsive in my
case.</div>
<div>3. editng the patch, removing the image, closing
it, closing and repoening purr data all the elements
appear and everything is ok.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So the culprit is "image" ???</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks for the feedback,<br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Alberto<br>
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2020 alle ore 10:28 Linux ROUEN Normandie <<a href="mailto:linux.rouen@free.fr" target="_blank">linux.rouen@free.fr</a>>
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<div> I'm using several GNU/Linux distributions
including Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon (Linux kernel
5.4.0-48 + CPU Intel Core i720Q + GPU Nvidia GT230M
with its 340.108 proprietary driver or Nouveau).<br>
I confirm I haven't see for the time being the
canvas issues reported by Alberto neither under the
different GNU/Linuxes nor under Windows 10.<br>
Effectively a patch example will be the welcome for
counter testing that under my LM20.<br>
<br>
Best, Joseph<br>
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<div>1. That warning is normal, but not the
other misbehavior that you describe. Please
post a minimal patch exhibiting the problem,
so that we can try to reproduce it. Joseph is
also running Mint 20 (I think) and hasn't
reported any such problems.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>2. See <a href="https://agraef.github.io/purr-data-intro/Purr-Data-Intro.html#edit-mode-and-temporary-run-mode" target="_blank">https://agraef.github.io/purr-data-intro/Purr-Data-Intro.html#edit-mode-and-temporary-run-mode</a></div>
<div><br>
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<div>Albert</div>
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<div>Dear devs,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I installed yesterday Pd-l2ork-2.15.2
20201014-rev.1983b16e from Albert's
repository <br>
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<div>(<a href="https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=purr-data&project=home%3Aaggraef" target="_blank">https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=purr-data&project=home%3Aaggraef</a>)
.I'm on Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon ("Ulyana").</div>
<div>I noticed one "regression" and one
"warning" on my side:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1 .The regression I noticed is on
patches with some gui objects: opening
these patches now gives me errors on the
console like:</div>
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<pre id="gmail-m_-3964434938018384027gmail-m_-7253948610261377201gmail-m_1137413284350976742gmail-m_-7908600571989334565gmail-m_-6427111790072793306gmail-m_-6621675846676307987gmail-m_1930075855687454321gmail-m_6310177484847243348gmail-m_8868306445752508645gmail-p1" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;white-space:pre-wrap"><span>warning: saving iemgui colors as hex symbol. These colors are readable in Pd Vanilla since 0.47, but they are not readable in Purr Data version 2.12.0 or earlier. If you need to remain compatible with older versions of Purr Data please run in compatibility mode with Vanilla version 0.47 like this:</span></pre>
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<div>The canvas opens completely white and
after clicking "save" the gui objects
appear but I cannot move any of them. I
never saw this error before.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2. my "warning" is that I get the
message <br>
</div>
<div>
<pre id="gmail-m_-3964434938018384027gmail-m_-7253948610261377201gmail-m_1137413284350976742gmail-m_-7908600571989334565gmail-m_-6427111790072793306gmail-m_-6621675846676307987gmail-m_1930075855687454321gmail-m_6310177484847243348gmail-m_8868306445752508645gmail-p1" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;white-space:pre-wrap"><span>warning: The hotkey for temporary run mode has changed. Please press Alt instead of Ctrl to enable it.</span></pre>
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but actually in Linux Mint (and I suspect
all gnome based distros) ALT+x is a
keybinding for graphic actions (for example
ALT+left mouse moves the windows around on
the screen)<br>
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Any help would be greatly
appreciated. <br>
</div>
<div>If I can help with some debug please
let me know...</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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