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    Ciao Alberto,<br>
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      I can't watch your video as it's private and I don't have a
      YouTube account.<br>
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      Joseph<br>
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      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 18/10/2020 à 20:11, Alberto Zin a
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        <div>Hello Joseph and thanks for your feedback.</div>
        <div>I managed to upload a video on youtube, this is the link:</div>
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            gmail-ytcp-video-info">It's  2 minutes video, showing what
            happens on my side. <br>
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            gmail-ytcp-video-info">Could it be an HW issue on my side? <br>
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            gmail-ytcp-video-info">Thanks again for the support.<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno dom 18 ott 2020 alle
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          <div> Ciao Alberto,<br>
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            <div>So under my Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon, your smeck_azgui.pd
              with fig0.gif (in the same folder) opens quickly and
              correctly.<br>
              After playing with it a little bit, I can edit / move /
              save all the objects including the canvas without any
              (visible) issue.<br>
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              The only one thing is with the image not having a
              selection border when clicking on it. This is a known bug.<br>
              And we get in the console: "legacy tcl command at 239 of
              gui/image.c: .x33da49a0.c create prect 990 38 1340 506
              -tags 33e1cc50SEL -strokewidth 1 -stroke
              $pd_colors(selection)". This is also a known bug.<br>
              <br>
              The "iemgui warning message" you/we get is linked to what
              Albert has written you yesterday and it's normal and not
              affecting the good functioning of Purr Data.<br>
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              So, I'm sorry but I cannot reproduce the bug you have
              reported.<br>
              Wait for Albert and/or Jonathan suggestions.<br>
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              Best, Joseph<br>
              - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
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            <div>Le 18/10/2020 à 15:05, Alberto Zin a écrit :<br>
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                <div>hello,</div>
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                <div>I noticed that part of my issues (blank canvas on
                  opening) was related to having an image on the canvas,
                  like:<br>
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                <div>#X obj 1165 272 image ./doc/fig0.gif 0;</div>
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                <div>removing that line the canvas opens quickly but I
                  cannot move slides, number boxes etc.In my case the
                  gui is totally unresponsive.</div>
                <div>Saving the patch, restarting pd ==> everything
                  seems to be fine. <br>
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                <div>I attach the example patch (with the path to the
                  image at the same level w.r.t. the patch) and the
                  associated image file.</div>
                <div>In my case the attached patch does the following:</div>
                <div>1. starts completely blank</div>
                <div>2. clicking on save all the elements on the patch
                  appear (but not all!) and the message:</div>
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                  <pre id="gmail-m_1930075855687454321gmail-p1" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;white-space:pre-wrap"><span>warning: saving iemgui colors as hex symbol. These colors are readable in Pd Vanilla since 0.47, but they are not readable in Purr Data version 2.12.0 or earlier. If you need to remain compatible with older versions of Purr Data please run in compatibility mode with Vanilla version 0.47 like this:</span></pre>
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                <div>Is triggered. Numberboxes are unresponsive in my
                  case.</div>
                <div>3. editng the patch, removing the image, closing
                  it, closing and repoening purr data all the elements
                  appear and everything is ok.<br>
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                <div>So the culprit is "image" ???</div>
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                <div>Thanks for the feedback,<br>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno dom 18 ott
                  2020 alle ore 10:28 Linux ROUEN Normandie <<a
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                  <div> I'm using several GNU/Linux distributions
                    including Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon (Linux kernel
                    5.4.0-48 + CPU Intel Core i720Q + GPU Nvidia GT230M
                    with its 340.108 proprietary driver or Nouveau).<br>
                    I confirm I haven't see for the time being the
                    canvas issues reported by Alberto neither under the
                    different GNU/Linuxes nor under Windows 10.<br>
                    Effectively a patch example will be the welcome for
                    counter testing that under my LM20.<br>
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                    Best, Joseph<br>
                    <div>- - - - - - - - - -<br>
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                      Le 17/10/2020 à 18:39, Albert Graef a écrit :<br>
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                        <div>1. That warning is normal, but not the
                          other misbehavior that you describe. Please
                          post a minimal patch exhibiting the problem,
                          so that we can try to reproduce it. Joseph is
                          also running Mint 20 (I think) and hasn't
                          reported any such problems.</div>
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                        <div>2. See <a
href="https://agraef.github.io/purr-data-intro/Purr-Data-Intro.html#edit-mode-and-temporary-run-mode"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://agraef.github.io/purr-data-intro/Purr-Data-Intro.html#edit-mode-and-temporary-run-mode</a></div>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct
                          17, 2020 at 1:30 PM Alberto Zin <<a
                            href="mailto:alberto.zin@gmail.com"
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                            <div>Dear devs,</div>
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                            <div>I installed yesterday Pd-l2ork-2.15.2
                              20201014-rev.1983b16e from Albert's
                              repository <br>
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                            <div>(<a
href="https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=purr-data&project=home%3Aaggraef"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=purr-data&project=home%3Aaggraef</a>)
                              .I'm on Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon ("Ulyana").</div>
                            <div>I noticed one "regression" and one
                              "warning" on my side:</div>
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                            <div>1 .The regression I noticed is on
                              patches with some gui objects: opening
                              these patches now gives me errors on the
                              console like:</div>
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                              <pre id="gmail-m_1930075855687454321gmail-m_6310177484847243348gmail-m_8868306445752508645gmail-p1" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;white-space:pre-wrap"><span>warning: saving iemgui colors as hex symbol. These colors are readable in Pd Vanilla since 0.47, but they are not readable in Purr Data version 2.12.0 or earlier. If you need to remain compatible with older versions of Purr Data please run in compatibility mode with Vanilla version 0.47 like this:</span></pre>
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                            <div>The canvas opens completely white and
                              after clicking "save" the gui objects
                              appear but I cannot move any of them. I
                              never saw this error before.<br>
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                            <div>2. my "warning" is that I get the
                              message <br>
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                              <pre id="gmail-m_1930075855687454321gmail-m_6310177484847243348gmail-m_8868306445752508645gmail-p1" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;white-space:pre-wrap"><span>warning: The hotkey for temporary run mode has changed. Please press Alt instead of Ctrl to enable it.</span></pre>
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                            but actually in Linux Mint (and I suspect
                            all gnome based distros) ALT+x is a
                            keybinding for graphic actions (for example
                            ALT+left mouse moves the windows around on
                            the screen)<br>
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                              <div>Any help would be greatly
                                appreciated. <br>
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                              <div>If I can help with some debug please
                                let me know...</div>
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                              <div>Thanks,</div>
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