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    Alberto,<br>
    Well, your video is now watchable!<br>
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      My first tests were just with your patch + image / Purr Data.<br>
      Now, I started like you Jack2 (QJackCtl) and DSP. Your patch is
      still okay and everything is responsive and modifiable on my PC
      with LM20.<br>
      <br>
      You should have a kind of freeze. And you have already identified
      that your patch is back to normal on your PC when your delete the
      image in this patch.<br>
      <br>
      Have a look into the LM20 System Monitor or HTop to see which
      system processes could be involved (CPU and/or RAM load).<br>
      This seems to be PC specific.<br>
      <br>
      What are your PC components: CPU / RAM / GPU + driver / Linux
      kernel / Hard installation or virtual machine?<br>
      All the objects you are using are only from Purr Data libraries?<br>
      Your Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon seems to be a modified version. What
      was done?<br>
      <br>
      Joseph<br>
      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
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      Le 18/10/2020 à 22:37, Alberto Zin a écrit :<br>
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        <div>woops, sorry. Now it's public.</div>
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        <div>Alberto<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno dom 18 ott 2020 alle
          ore 22:25 Linux ROUEN Normandie <<a
            href="mailto:linux.rouen@free.fr" moz-do-not-send="true">linux.rouen@free.fr</a>>
          ha scritto:<br>
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          <div> Ciao Alberto,<br>
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              I can't watch your video as it's private and I don't have
              a YouTube account.<br>
              <br>
              Joseph<br>
              <br>
              - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
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            <div>Le 18/10/2020 à 20:11, Alberto Zin a écrit :<br>
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                <div>Hello Joseph and thanks for your feedback.</div>
                <div>I managed to upload a video on youtube, this is the
                  link:</div>
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                  <div><span><a href="https://youtu.be/JX-Niqy4Usc"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
                        https://youtu.be/JX-Niqy4Usc </a><br>
                    </span></div>
                  <div>It's  2 minutes video, showing what happens on my
                    side. <br>
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                  <div>Could it be an HW issue on my side? <br>
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                  </div>
                  <div>Thanks again for the support.<br>
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                  <div>Alberto<br>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno dom 18 ott
                  2020 alle ore 16:08 Linux ROUEN Normandie <<a
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                    moz-do-not-send="true">linux.rouen@free.fr</a>>
                  ha scritto:<br>
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                  <div> Ciao Alberto,<br>
                    <br>
                    <div>So under my Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon, your
                      smeck_azgui.pd with fig0.gif (in the same folder)
                      opens quickly and correctly.<br>
                      After playing with it a little bit, I can edit /
                      move / save all the objects including the canvas
                      without any (visible) issue.<br>
                      <br>
                      The only one thing is with the image not having a
                      selection border when clicking on it. This is a
                      known bug.<br>
                      And we get in the console: "legacy tcl command at
                      239 of gui/image.c: .x33da49a0.c create prect 990
                      38 1340 506 -tags 33e1cc50SEL -strokewidth 1
                      -stroke $pd_colors(selection)". This is also a
                      known bug.<br>
                      <br>
                      The "iemgui warning message" you/we get is linked
                      to what Albert has written you yesterday and it's
                      normal and not affecting the good functioning of
                      Purr Data.<br>
                      <br>
                      So, I'm sorry but I cannot reproduce the bug you
                      have reported.<br>
                      Wait for Albert and/or Jonathan suggestions.<br>
                      <br>
                      Best, Joseph<br>
                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
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                    <div>Le 18/10/2020 à 15:05, Alberto Zin a écrit :<br>
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                        <div>hello,</div>
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                        <div>I noticed that part of my issues (blank
                          canvas on opening) was related to having an
                          image on the canvas, like:<br>
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                        <div>#X obj 1165 272 image ./doc/fig0.gif 0;</div>
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                        <div>removing that line the canvas opens quickly
                          but I cannot move slides, number boxes etc.In
                          my case the gui is totally unresponsive.</div>
                        <div>Saving the patch, restarting pd ==>
                          everything seems to be fine. <br>
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                        <div>I attach the example patch (with the path
                          to the image at the same level w.r.t. the
                          patch) and the associated image file.</div>
                        <div>In my case the attached patch does the
                          following:</div>
                        <div>1. starts completely blank</div>
                        <div>2. clicking on save all the elements on the
                          patch appear (but not all!) and the message:</div>
                        <div>
                          <pre id="gmail-m_-6621675846676307987gmail-m_1930075855687454321gmail-p1" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;white-space:pre-wrap"><span>warning: saving iemgui colors as hex symbol. These colors are readable in Pd Vanilla since 0.47, but they are not readable in Purr Data version 2.12.0 or earlier. If you need to remain compatible with older versions of Purr Data please run in compatibility mode with Vanilla version 0.47 like this:</span></pre>
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                        <div>Is triggered. Numberboxes are unresponsive
                          in my case.</div>
                        <div>3. editng the patch, removing the image,
                          closing it, closing and repoening purr data
                          all the elements appear and everything is ok.<br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
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                        <div>So the culprit is "image" ???</div>
                        <div><br>
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                        <div>Thanks for the feedback,<br>
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                        <div>Alberto<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno dom
                          18 ott 2020 alle ore 10:28 Linux ROUEN
                          Normandie <<a
                            href="mailto:linux.rouen@free.fr"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">linux.rouen@free.fr</a>>
                          ha scritto:<br>
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                          <div> I'm using several GNU/Linux
                            distributions including Linux Mint 20
                            Cinnamon (Linux kernel 5.4.0-48 + CPU Intel
                            Core i720Q + GPU Nvidia GT230M with its
                            340.108 proprietary driver or Nouveau).<br>
                            I confirm I haven't see for the time being
                            the canvas issues reported by Alberto
                            neither under the different GNU/Linuxes nor
                            under Windows 10.<br>
                            Effectively a patch example will be the
                            welcome for counter testing that under my
                            LM20.<br>
                            <br>
                            Best, Joseph<br>
                            <div>- - - - - - - - - -<br>
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                            <div><br>
                              Le 17/10/2020 à 18:39, Albert Graef a
                              écrit :<br>
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                                <div>1. That warning is normal, but not
                                  the other misbehavior that you
                                  describe. Please post a minimal patch
                                  exhibiting the problem, so that we can
                                  try to reproduce it. Joseph is also
                                  running Mint 20 (I think) and hasn't
                                  reported any such problems.</div>
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                                <div>2. See <a
href="https://agraef.github.io/purr-data-intro/Purr-Data-Intro.html#edit-mode-and-temporary-run-mode"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://agraef.github.io/purr-data-intro/Purr-Data-Intro.html#edit-mode-and-temporary-run-mode</a></div>
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                                <div>Albert</div>
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                                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                  Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 1:30 PM Alberto
                                  Zin <<a
                                    href="mailto:alberto.zin@gmail.com"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">alberto.zin@gmail.com</a>>
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                                    <div>Dear devs,</div>
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                                    <div>I installed yesterday
                                      Pd-l2ork-2.15.2
                                      20201014-rev.1983b16e from
                                      Albert's repository <br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>(<a
href="https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=purr-data&project=home%3Aaggraef"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=purr-data&project=home%3Aaggraef</a>)
                                      .I'm on Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon
                                      ("Ulyana").</div>
                                    <div>I noticed one "regression" and
                                      one "warning" on my side:</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>1 .The regression I noticed is
                                      on patches with some gui objects:
                                      opening these patches now gives me
                                      errors on the console like:</div>
                                    <div>
                                      <pre id="gmail-m_-6621675846676307987gmail-m_1930075855687454321gmail-m_6310177484847243348gmail-m_8868306445752508645gmail-p1" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;white-space:pre-wrap"><span>warning: saving iemgui colors as hex symbol. These colors are readable in Pd Vanilla since 0.47, but they are not readable in Purr Data version 2.12.0 or earlier. If you need to remain compatible with older versions of Purr Data please run in compatibility mode with Vanilla version 0.47 like this:</span></pre>
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                                    <div>The canvas opens completely
                                      white and after clicking "save"
                                      the gui objects appear but I
                                      cannot move any of them. I never
                                      saw this error before.<br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>2. my "warning" is that I get
                                      the message <br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <pre id="gmail-m_-6621675846676307987gmail-m_1930075855687454321gmail-m_6310177484847243348gmail-m_8868306445752508645gmail-p1" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;white-space:pre-wrap"><span>warning: The hotkey for temporary run mode has changed. Please press Alt instead of Ctrl to enable it.</span></pre>
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                                    but actually in Linux Mint (and I
                                    suspect all gnome based distros)
                                    ALT+x is a keybinding for graphic
                                    actions (for example ALT+left mouse
                                    moves the windows around on the
                                    screen)<br>
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                                      <div><br>
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                                      <div>Any help would be greatly
                                        appreciated. <br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>If I can help with some debug
                                        please let me know...</div>
                                      <div><br>
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                                      <div>Thanks,</div>
                                      <div><br>
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                                      <div>Alberto<br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">Dr. Albert Gr"af<br>
                                          Computer Music Research Group,
                                          JGU Mainz, Germany<br>
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