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    Ciao Alberto,<br>
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    <div class="moz-signature">So under my Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon, your
      smeck_azgui.pd with fig0.gif (in the same folder) opens quickly
      and correctly.<br>
      After playing with it a little bit, I can edit / move / save all
      the objects including the canvas without any (visible) issue.<br>
      <br>
      The only one thing is with the image not having a selection border
      when clicking on it. This is a known bug.<br>
      And we get in the console: "legacy tcl command at 239 of
      gui/image.c: .x33da49a0.c create prect 990 38 1340 506 -tags
      33e1cc50SEL -strokewidth 1 -stroke $pd_colors(selection)". This is
      also a known bug.<br>
      <br>
      The "iemgui warning message" you/we get is linked to what Albert
      has written you yesterday and it's normal and not affecting the
      good functioning of Purr Data.<br>
      <br>
      So, I'm sorry but I cannot reproduce the bug you have reported.<br>
      Wait for Albert and/or Jonathan suggestions.<br>
      <br>
      Best, Joseph<br>
      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 18/10/2020 à 15:05, Alberto Zin a
      écrit :<br>
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        <div>hello,</div>
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        <div>I noticed that part of my issues (blank canvas on opening)
          was related to having an image on the canvas, like:<br>
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        <div>#X obj 1165 272 image ./doc/fig0.gif 0;</div>
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        <div>removing that line the canvas opens quickly but I cannot
          move slides, number boxes etc.In my case the gui is totally
          unresponsive.</div>
        <div>Saving the patch, restarting pd ==> everything seems to
          be fine. <br>
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        <div>I attach the example patch (with the path to the image at
          the same level w.r.t. the patch) and the associated image
          file.</div>
        <div>In my case the attached patch does the following:</div>
        <div>1. starts completely blank</div>
        <div>2. clicking on save all the elements on the patch appear
          (but not all!) and the message:</div>
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          <pre id="gmail-p1" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;white-space:pre-wrap"><span>warning: saving iemgui colors as hex symbol. These colors are readable in Pd Vanilla since 0.47, but they are not readable in Purr Data version 2.12.0 or earlier. If you need to remain compatible with older versions of Purr Data please run in compatibility mode with Vanilla version 0.47 like this:</span></pre>
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        <div>Is triggered. Numberboxes are unresponsive in my case.</div>
        <div>3. editng the patch, removing the image, closing it,
          closing and repoening purr data all the elements appear and
          everything is ok.<br>
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        <div>So the culprit is "image" ???</div>
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        <div>Thanks for the feedback,<br>
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        <div>Alberto<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno dom 18 ott 2020 alle
          ore 10:28 Linux ROUEN Normandie <<a
            href="mailto:linux.rouen@free.fr" moz-do-not-send="true">linux.rouen@free.fr</a>>
          ha scritto:<br>
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          <div> I'm using several GNU/Linux distributions including
            Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon (Linux kernel 5.4.0-48 + CPU Intel
            Core i720Q + GPU Nvidia GT230M with its 340.108 proprietary
            driver or Nouveau).<br>
            I confirm I haven't see for the time being the canvas issues
            reported by Alberto neither under the different GNU/Linuxes
            nor under Windows 10.<br>
            Effectively a patch example will be the welcome for counter
            testing that under my LM20.<br>
            <br>
            Best, Joseph<br>
            <div>- - - - - - - - - -<br>
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              Le 17/10/2020 à 18:39, Albert Graef a écrit :<br>
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                <div>1. That warning is normal, but not the other
                  misbehavior that you describe. Please post a minimal
                  patch exhibiting the problem, so that we can try to
                  reproduce it. Joseph is also running Mint 20 (I think)
                  and hasn't reported any such problems.</div>
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                <div>2. See <a
href="https://agraef.github.io/purr-data-intro/Purr-Data-Intro.html#edit-mode-and-temporary-run-mode"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://agraef.github.io/purr-data-intro/Purr-Data-Intro.html#edit-mode-and-temporary-run-mode</a></div>
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                <div>Albert</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 17, 2020
                  at 1:30 PM Alberto Zin <<a
                    href="mailto:alberto.zin@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">alberto.zin@gmail.com</a>>
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                    <div>Dear devs,</div>
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                    <div>I installed yesterday Pd-l2ork-2.15.2
                      20201014-rev.1983b16e from Albert's repository <br>
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                    <div>(<a
href="https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=purr-data&project=home%3Aaggraef"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=purr-data&project=home%3Aaggraef</a>)
                      .I'm on Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon ("Ulyana").</div>
                    <div>I noticed one "regression" and one "warning" on
                      my side:</div>
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                    <div>1 .The regression I noticed is on patches with
                      some gui objects: opening these patches now gives
                      me errors on the console like:</div>
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                      <pre id="gmail-m_6310177484847243348gmail-m_8868306445752508645gmail-p1" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;white-space:pre-wrap"><span>warning: saving iemgui colors as hex symbol. These colors are readable in Pd Vanilla since 0.47, but they are not readable in Purr Data version 2.12.0 or earlier. If you need to remain compatible with older versions of Purr Data please run in compatibility mode with Vanilla version 0.47 like this:</span></pre>
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                    <div>The canvas opens completely white and after
                      clicking "save" the gui objects appear but I
                      cannot move any of them. I never saw this error
                      before.<br>
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                    <div>2. my "warning" is that I get the message <br>
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                      <pre id="gmail-m_6310177484847243348gmail-m_8868306445752508645gmail-p1" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;white-space:pre-wrap"><span>warning: The hotkey for temporary run mode has changed. Please press Alt instead of Ctrl to enable it.</span></pre>
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                    but actually in Linux Mint (and I suspect all gnome
                    based distros) ALT+x is a keybinding for graphic
                    actions (for example ALT+left mouse moves the
                    windows around on the screen)<br>
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                      <div>Any help would be greatly appreciated. <br>
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                      <div>If I can help with some debug please let me
                        know...</div>
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                      <div>Thanks,</div>
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                      <div>Alberto<br>
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