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<p>Hello Ico,<br>
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<p>In EditMode, I mean, e.g. when you want to move the scrolling bar
by clicking on and then moving it, but you unfortunately click
just close to it (at its right or bottom) in the little tiny space
left between the scroll bars and the patch window borders with an
object behind, you select this object for edition. This narrow
space shouldn't be active, should be frozen.<br>
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<p>If you take your time you will discover that this is not what you
wanted to do, but if you are doing things quickly it's not sure
you will remark what you have badly done and you can change
involuntary your patch design.</p>
<p>This was already the case before 2.12.0. Versions 2.12.0 &
2.13.0 got better but didn't fix this issue at 100%.<br>
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<p>Best, Joseph<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the report. Do you mind
clarifying exactly what is happening? What does it mean to +/-
click an object? Are you saying that you accidentally click on
the object in the margin between the scrollbars and the window
edge? If so, we could easily fix this by putting the scrollbars
against the edges.
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Linux Rouen <<a href="mailto:linux.rouen@free.fr"
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All,<br>
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As reported for Purr Data 2.12.0, in 2.13.0 there is also the
same <br>
potential issue when we are in EditMode to select by accident
an object <br>
being just behind either the vertical or the horizontal
scrolling bars <br>
when we +/- click on them.<br>
Okay, now these scrolling bars are transparent, so we can see
what is <br>
happening but it's still dangerous, and this requires high
attention <br>
from the patcher.<br>
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The reason: there is few clickable pixels left between the
scrolling <br>
bars sides (right / bottom) and the patch window limits.<br>
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Best, Joseph<br>
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Le 01/08/2020 à 23:15, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> Purr Data 2.13.0 has just been released:<br>
><br>
> <a
href="https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data#downloads"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data#downloads</a><br>
><br>
> Changes:<br>
> * ported Vanilla's [inlet~ fwd] argument (reimplemented
to avoid stack<br>
> allocation and various other problems) (Thanks to
Guillem!)<br>
><br>
> * scrollbar fix for optimal zoom (Thanks Ico!)<br>
><br>
> *avoid null selectors in core where trivial to do so,
gracefully<br>
> handle and annotate them when/if they happen. Also added
an<br>
> experimental [debuginfo] object so we can output a
message with a null<br>
> selector (and other methods in the future good for
testing)<br>
><br>
> * ported Vanilla patch for [pow~] handling negative
samples in input<br>
><br>
> * ported [savestate] from Vanilla<br>
><br>
> * ported array, scalar "bang" methods<br>
><br>
> * add base argument and inlet for [log]<br>
><br>
> * add zcheckgetfn to m_pd.h for checking method
signatures match<br>
> before doing an end run around typedmess. This is used
for the<br>
> reimplementation of [inlet~ fwd]. (Thanks to Guillem for
this)<br>
><br>
> * port and re-implement Vanilla's "#ffffff" syntax for
setting iemgui<br>
> colors. Additionally, support the "#fff" short syntax.
We're not<br>
> currently saving the symbol colors in the Pd file format,
yet. A<br>
> warning is printed about this since it means we're still
storing the<br>
> lossy color format. A future version will save the symbol
colors, but<br>
> we want to ship a few releases supporting the new syntax
before making<br>
> this breaking file format change.<br>
><br>
> * added "test-object" abstraction for doing more detailed
testing of objects<br>
><br>
> * fixed bug where the box width was wrong when editing
certain objects<br>
> (thanks to Guillem)<br>
><br>
> * port "seed" method for [noise~]<br>
><br>
> * throttle canvas_motion (part 1 of 2 of getting rid of
exponential<br>
> explosion when moving selections)<br>
><br>
> * port [text] "sort" method<br>
><br>
> * when clicking an error link, bring the relevant object
into the<br>
> viewport and animate it to make it easy for the user to
find<br>
><br>
> * add "-alsaadd" flag with pulse device for pulse support
(Thanks to Sam!)<br>
><br>
> * fixed some alsa bugs<br>
><br>
> * ported from Vanilla: preserve phase in [clone] after
[all( message,<br>
> fixed a crasher<br>
><br>
> * expand and improve the type hints for errors with edge
case atoms<br>
> (null selectors, null symbols, "floatlike" symbol
payloads, etc.)<br>
><br>
> * improvements to french translations (Thanks Joseph!)<br>
><br>
> * update pd-lua compatibility with Lua 5.4 (Thanks
Albert!)<br>
><br>
> * port multi-step undo from Vanilla (Thanks Guillem!)<br>
><br>
> * initial touch support in GUI (Thanks Albert and
spidercatnat!)<br>
><br>
> * zoom viewport fix (Thanks Albert!)<br>
><br>
> -Jonathan<br>
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