<div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks. But why a separate merge request? Can't that single commit just be added to the existing <a href="https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/-/merge_requests/403">https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/-/merge_requests/403</a>? If you just keep adding new merge requests for each and every trivial change, that makes it so much harder for others to comprehend what's going on and re-test. Just keep adding to the original branch and push to the MR until it's finished, that's the workflow that everybody uses.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 7:31 PM Ivica Ico Bukvic <<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div>
    <p>There is now a new merge request to remove the debugging info.
      This should, as far as I can tell, resolve all the issues Albert
      pointed out so far. AFAICT I was unable to reproduce the problem
      Albert mentioned with the 00.under.construction patch.<br>
    </p>
    <p><a href="https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/-/merge_requests/406" target="_blank">https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/-/merge_requests/406</a></p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Ico<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 7/1/2020 1:20 PM, Ivica Bukvic
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      <div dir="ltr">I got the debug message resolved. Will be
        submitting a merge request shortly. Still working on the other
        one.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Best,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Ico<br clear="all">
          <div>
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                          <pre cols="72"><pre cols="72">-- 
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Director, Creativity + Innovation
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology

Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
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                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
          <br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 12:40
          AM Albert Graef <<a href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com" target="_blank">aggraef@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir="ltr">
            <div>I'm getting those debugging messages also with vanilla
              array scalars:</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>
              <div><img src="cid:1730ca5f1c4cb971f161" alt="image.png" width="476" height="387"><br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>That might just be some leftover debugging message.
                At least this example seems to work properly.<br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">
            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at
              6:35 AM Albert Graef <<a href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com" target="_blank">aggraef@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
              <div dir="ltr">
                <div>Ok, that improved things *a lot*. The about dialog
                  is working again, as does
                  doc/4.data.structures/07.sequencer.pd. But I'm still
                  having trouble with some (array-related?) pd-l2ork
                  scalar examples, specifically
                  doc/4.data.structures/pd-l2ork/ds-tutorials/00.under.construction.pd
                  gives me this when launched (and the animation of the
                  construction sign fails to work):</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div><img src="cid:1730ca5f1c5cb971f162" alt="image.png" width="476" height="298"><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Do you have a fix for that as well? It seems that
                    we're getting really close...</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Albert</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at
                  4:14 AM Ivica Ico Bukvic <<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                  <div>
                    <p>Just submitted a merge request that does 2
                      things:</p>
                    <p>1) fixes the scalar issue and</p>
                    <p>2) included as a separate commit in the same
                      merge request items that were for some reason
                      omitted during the mergefest</p>
                    <p>This should now solve most issues with the
                      exception of the 0.47 features whose status I did
                      not explore in detail since they have not been
                      completely merged.</p>
                    <p>The new scrollbars do work here but please note I
                      am using 0.47.</p>
                    <p>Best,</p>
                    <p>Ico<br>
                    </p>
                    <div>On 6/30/2020 9:32 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <p>Never mind, this should apply onto your branch
                        fine. I am curious why my "git checkout -b
                        <new_branch> upstream/master" does not get
                        me the most up-to-date content from your branch.
                        Plot thickens...</p>
                      <p>Once I figure out this, I will send you a merge
                        request.</p>
                      <p>Best,</p>
                      <p>Ico<br>
                      </p>
                      <div>On 6/30/2020 9:29 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:<br>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <p>So, I cannot issue a merge request since the
                          main branch still has the older version of
                          gui_scalar_new that does not have the
                          plot_style option which is meant to fine-tune
                          plot positioning (and may be tied to the 0.4x
                          nw.js). While this fixes it on my branch, I
                          will have to dig through yours to see what you
                          may have not been merged (as is the case with
                          the previously mentioned merge) to have caused
                          this regression.</p>
                        <p>I really wish that we moved forward with the
                          0.4x transition...</p>
                        <p>Best,</p>
                        <p>Ico<br>
                        </p>
                        <div>On 6/30/2020 9:22 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic
                          wrote:<br>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote type="cite">
                          <p>OK, I got the fix. This was definitely my
                            doing--in fixing the plots I completely
                            forgot that a non-plot scalar may not have a
                            valid plot type and therefore will have
                            matrix left undefined. Below is a diff.
                            Also, I will send out a merge request
                            shortly.</p>
                          <p>Best,</p>
                          <p>Ico<br>
                          </p>
                          <p>index 6d85631a..1a0ea4bc 100644<br>
                            --- a/pd/nw/pdgui.js<br>
                            +++ b/pd/nw/pdgui.js<br>
                            @@ -3514,7 +3514,11 @@ function
                            gui_scalar_new(cid, tag, isselected, t1, t2,
                            t3, t4, t5, t6,<br>
                                                 transform_string =
                            "translate(" + 0 +<br>
                                                     "," + (t6+1) + ")
                            scale(" + t1 + "," + t4 + ")";<br>
                                                
                            //post("transform_string = " +
                            transform_string);<br>
                            -                    break;<br>
                            +                    break;<br>
                            +                default:<br>
                            +                    // we are a non-plot
                            scalar<br>
                            +                    matrix =
                            [t1,t2,t3,t4,t5,t6];<br>
                            +                    break;<br>
                                         }<br>
                                     }<br>
                                     else {<br>
                            @@ -3535,6 +3539,10 @@ function
                            gui_scalar_new(cid, tag, isselected, t1, t2,
                            t3, t4, t5, t6,<br>
                                                     "," + (t6+1.5) + ")
                            scale(" + t1 + "," + t4 + ")";<br>
                                                
                            //post("transform_string = " +
                            transform_string);<br>
                                                 break;<br>
                            +                default:<br>
                            +                    // we are a non-plot
                            scalar<br>
                            +                    matrix =
                            [t1,t2,t3,t4,t5,t6];<br>
                            +                    break;<br>
                                         }<br>
                                     }<br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                          </p>
                          <p><br>
                          </p>
                          <div>On 6/30/2020 9:13 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic
                            wrote:<br>
                          </div>
                          <blockquote type="cite">
                            <p>It appears my branch is affected, as
                              well, so it is either something I did or
                              something that was merged from the main
                              branch. The error is as follows (on
                              Windows, at least):</p>
                            <p>C:\Program Files (x86)\Purr
                              Data\bin\pdgui.js:3542 Uncaught TypeError:
                              Cannot read property 'join' of undefined<br>
                                  at C:\Program Files (x86)\Purr
                              Data\bin\pdgui.js:3542:51<br>
                                  at get (C:\Program Files (x86)\Purr
                              Data\bin\pdgui.js:2057:21)<br>
                                  at Object.get_elem (C:\Program Files
                              (x86)\Purr Data\bin\pdgui.js:2073:24)<br>
                                  at gui_scalar_new (C:\Program Files
                              (x86)\Purr Data\bin\pdgui.js:3491:14)<br>
                                  at eval (eval at perfect_parser
                              (C:\Program Files (x86)\Purr
                              Data\bin\pdgui.js:1885:21),
                              <anonymous>:1:1)<br>
                                  at perfect_parser (C:\Program Files
                              (x86)\Purr Data\bin\pdgui.js:1885:21)<br>
                                  at Socket.<anonymous>
                              (C:\Program Files (x86)\Purr
                              Data\bin\pdgui.js:1903:9)<br>
                                  at Socket.emit (events.js:315)<br>
                                  at addChunk (_stream_readable.js:302)<br>
                                  at readableAddChunk
                              (_stream_readable.js:278)</p>
                            <p>Best,</p>
                            <p>Ico<br>
                            </p>
                            <div>On 6/30/2020 8:08 PM, Ivica Bukvic
                              wrote:<br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote type="cite">
                              <div dir="auto">Before we do that, allow
                                me to take a stab at this to see what
                                may have broke. I will also test to see
                                if my branch exhibits the same problem.
                                What about the plot drawing
                                optimizations you introduced, could they
                                be also somehow involved? I don't have
                                those yet on my branch and have not
                                experienced any known problems yet,
                                although I need to test the about page.
                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                  <div dir="auto">Best,<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Ico<br>
                                    <br>
                                    -- <br>
                                    Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br>
                                    Director, Creativity + Innovation<br>
                                    Institute for Creativity, Arts, and
                                    Technology<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Virginia Tech<br>
                                    Creative Technologies in Music<br>
                                    School of Performing Arts – 0141<br>
                                    Blacksburg, VA 24061<br>
                                    (540) 231-6139<br>
                                    <a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a><br>
                                    <br>
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                                    <a href="http://www.performingarts.vt.edu" target="_blank">www.performingarts.vt.edu</a><br>
                                    <a href="http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu" target="_blank">l2ork.icat.vt.edu</a><br>
                                    <a href="http://ico.bukvic.net" target="_blank">ico.bukvic.net</a></div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">
                                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                  Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 19:23 Jonathan
                                  Wilkes <<a href="mailto:jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com" target="_blank">jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Albert--
                                  now that HEAD is what it is, what
                                  would the process be of<br>
                                  rolling it back while putting all
                                  those merges<br>
                                  into a separate nwjs-update branch?<br>
                                  <br>
                                  -Jonathan<br>
                                  <br>
                                  On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:57 PM
                                  Jonathan Wilkes <<a href="mailto:jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 3:20 PM
                                  Ivica Bukvic <<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  > ><br>
                                  > > The fix that may have
                                  triggered the regression you describe
                                  was supposed to fix a regression :-)<br>
                                  > ><br>
                                  > > Namely the code removed that
                                  deletes data structures during a
                                  redraw also tends to delete all the
                                  other objects on a subpatch when an
                                  undo action is triggered, leaving only
                                  patch cords visible. This was true
                                  regardless of the nw.js version. I
                                  suspect that the fix that Jonathan
                                  originally introduced there may have
                                  been because of drawing of the data
                                  structures alongside the regular
                                  objects on the same canvas, which is
                                  what the about page has with the
                                  animated cat.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > Unfortunately, I can't create a
                                  scalar on a canvas at all. This is a<br>
                                  > bug even if there are no gop
                                  subpatches in existence.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > Also-- I tried reverting the code
                                  you're referring to, Ico. Even with<br>
                                  > that code path present, a simple
                                  scalar will fail to<br>
                                  > be displayed. Even worse--
                                  nothing gets created on the GUI side.
                                  So<br>
                                  > either the problem is something
                                  you introduced to<br>
                                  > gui_scalar_new, or in the backend
                                  preventing that from every being
                                  called.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > -Jonathan<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > ><br>
                                  > > My originally proposed merge
                                  request offered deleting only scalars
                                  in a situation that the code seemed to
                                  address. I also indicated that it
                                  needed to be tested further given I
                                  was unsure under which circumstances
                                  this code would be necessary. The
                                  final merge was Jonathan's where he
                                  erased that part entirely suggesting
                                  it was not necessary anymore.<br>
                                  > ><br>
                                  > > What may be helpful, as the
                                  code complexity continues to grow, is
                                  to carefully annotate each of these
                                  calls in the code so that we can
                                  better understand why they are placed
                                  there in the first place and what
                                  needs to be done to check for
                                  regressions.<br>
                                  > ><br>
                                  > > Best,<br>
                                  > ><br>
                                  > > Ico<br>
                                  > ><br>
                                  > > --<br>
                                  > > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br>
                                  > > Director, Creativity +
                                  Innovation<br>
                                  > > Institute for Creativity,
                                  Arts, and Technology<br>
                                  > ><br>
                                  > > Virginia Tech<br>
                                  > > Creative Technologies in
                                  Music<br>
                                  > > School of Performing Arts –
                                  0141<br>
                                  > > Blacksburg, VA 24061<br>
                                  > > (540) 231-6139<br>
                                  > > <a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a><br>
                                  > ><br>
                                  > > <a href="http://www.icat.vt.edu" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.icat.vt.edu</a><br>
                                  > > <a href="http://www.performingarts.vt.edu" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.performingarts.vt.edu</a><br>
                                  > > <a href="http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">l2ork.icat.vt.edu</a><br>
                                  > > <a href="http://ico.bukvic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ico.bukvic.net</a><br>
                                  > ><br>
                                  > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 14:16
                                  Albert Graef <<a href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">aggraef@gmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  > >><br>
                                  > >> Sorry, I missed these
                                  remarks earlier.<br>
                                  > >><br>
                                  > >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at
                                  2:14 PM Jonathan Wilkes <<a href="mailto:jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  > >>><br>
                                  > >>> I can confirm
                                  running HEAD against a local 0.46.3
                                  nw.js on aarch64<br>
                                  > >>> does indeed work to
                                  load and display patches.<br>
                                  > >><br>
                                  > >><br>
                                  > >> Have you tried  the Help
                                  - About Pd-L2ork menu entry?<br>
                                  > >><br>
                                  > >>> What do I need to
                                  add to the contributor's guide to make
                                  it clear what<br>
                                  > >>> a desirable merge
                                  request branch should look like?<br>
                                  > >><br>
                                  > >><br>
                                  > >> I guess you're talking
                                  about workflow here? That is, rebasing
                                  and squashing commits so that you
                                  present your feature branch a.k.a.
                                  merge request as simple and
                                  comprehensible as possible, with a
                                  clean and logical commit history.
                                  There's a lot that goes into that 
                                  process and much of it is common sense
                                  -- but you'd probably have to
                                  replicate half the Git Book to explain
                                  these things really thoroughly.<br>
                                  > >><br>
                                  > >> However, the main
                                  failure in this case IMHO was that
                                  there weren't enough eyeballs looking
                                  at this "patchset from hell", before
                                  the changes were merged into master. A
                                  call for help on the mailing list goes
                                  a long way there, explaining what the
                                  new set of changes is about, what
                                  parts of the program might be
                                  affected, and what needs to be tested.
                                  I did notice the flurry of commits,
                                  but I wasn't sure what they were about
                                  and didn't have the time to look into
                                  them. I would certainly have tried to
                                  give a helping hand in testing,
                                  though, when asked about it in the
                                  manner described. ;-) (Or maybe I
                                  missed that call, then I have to
                                  apologize.)<br>
                                  > >><br>
                                  > >> Albert<br>
                                  > >><br>
                                  > >>> > On Tue, Jun 30,
                                  2020 at 11:42 AM Sam Thursfield <<a href="mailto:ssssam@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ssssam@gmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  > >>> >><br>
                                  > >>> >> Hi Albert,<br>
                                  > >>> >><br>
                                  > >>> >> On Tue, Jun
                                  30, 2020 at 9:12 AM Albert Graef <<a href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">aggraef@gmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  > >>> >> > The
                                  program still builds fine, launches
                                  and I can still open new patch windows
                                  (^n), but "About Pd-L2ork" doesn't
                                  work any more and I can't open
                                  existing patches either (apparently
                                  the patches do get opened in the
                                  engine, but no window is mapped).<br>
                                  > >>> >><br>
                                  > >>> >> Is it
                                  possible that you are using a version
                                  of nw.js >= 0.42.3 ?<br>
                                  > >>> >> This issue
                                  sounds a bit like<br>
                                  > >>> >> <a href="https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/-/issues/572" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/-/issues/572</a><br>
                                  > >>> >> Sam<br>
                                  > >>> >>
                                  _______________________________________________<br>
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                                  > >>> ><br>
                                  > >>> ><br>
                                  > >>> ><br>
                                  > >>> > --<br>
                                  > >>> > Dr. Albert
                                  Gr"af<br>
                                  > >>> > Computer Music
                                  Research Group, JGU Mainz, Germany<br>
                                  > >>> > Email: <a href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">aggraef@gmail.com</a>,
                                  web: <a href="https://agraef.github.io/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://agraef.github.io/</a><br>
                                  > >>> >
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                                  > >><br>
                                  > >><br>
                                  > >><br>
                                  > >> --<br>
                                  > >> Dr. Albert Gr"af<br>
                                  > >> Computer Music Research
                                  Group, JGU Mainz, Germany<br>
                                  > >> Email: <a href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">aggraef@gmail.com</a>,
                                  web: <a href="https://agraef.github.io/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://agraef.github.io/</a><br>
                                  > >>
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Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts – 0141
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Director, Creativity + Innovation
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology

Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>

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Director, Creativity + Innovation
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology

Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>

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<a href="http://ico.bukvic.net" target="_blank">ico.bukvic.net</a></pre>
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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Director, Creativity + Innovation
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology

Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>

<a href="http://www.icat.vt.edu" target="_blank">www.icat.vt.edu</a>
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<a href="http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu" target="_blank">l2ork.icat.vt.edu</a>
<a href="http://ico.bukvic.net" target="_blank">ico.bukvic.net</a></pre>
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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Director, Creativity + Innovation
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology

Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>

<a href="http://www.icat.vt.edu" target="_blank">www.icat.vt.edu</a>
<a href="http://www.performingarts.vt.edu" target="_blank">www.performingarts.vt.edu</a>
<a href="http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu" target="_blank">l2ork.icat.vt.edu</a>
<a href="http://ico.bukvic.net" target="_blank">ico.bukvic.net</a></pre>
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                          Computer Music Research Group, JGU Mainz,
                          Germany<br>
                          Email: <a href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com" target="_blank">aggraef@gmail.com</a>,
                          web: <a href="https://agraef.github.io/" target="_blank">https://agraef.github.io/</a></div>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Dr. Albert Gr"af<br>
                      Computer Music Research Group, JGU Mainz, Germany<br>
                      Email: <a href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com" target="_blank">aggraef@gmail.com</a>,
                      web: <a href="https://agraef.github.io/" target="_blank">https://agraef.github.io/</a></div>
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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Director, Creativity + Innovation
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology

Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>

<a href="http://www.icat.vt.edu" target="_blank">www.icat.vt.edu</a>
<a href="http://www.performingarts.vt.edu" target="_blank">www.performingarts.vt.edu</a>
<a href="http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu" target="_blank">l2ork.icat.vt.edu</a>
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