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    <p>Many thanks to the Development Team for releasing Purr Data
      v.2.11.0, a great piece of free/libre software for musicians of
      all kinds.<br>
      <br>
      @aggraef<br>
      Successfully updated Purr Data from v.2.10.1 to v.2.11.0 on Linux
      Mint 19.3 Cinnamon 64-bit (Ubuntu 18.04) using your JGU/OBS
      repository.<br>
      It's so easy, reliable and quick (less than 1 minute including the
      download).<br>
      Congratulations for delivering to the users such a very helpful
      and saving time procedure.<br>
      Later on this week, I will do the same under Ubuntu Studio 20.04
      LTS (JGU/OBS) awa under Windows 10 (1909) with your
      "windows-i386.zip".<br>
      <br>
      @jwilkes<br>
      - Good news :) Put -> Object-> [pianoroll] is now
      effectively putting this object visible into my patch and its help
      file is also well accessible and displayed.<br>
      So, I will start playing with it and see what I can get out from
      it, even as an "only step sequencer".<br>
      <br>
      - Bad news :( Put -> Object -> [cooled~] "a micro sound
      editor" has still the same ghost object issue than in previous
      releases.<br>
      The object is not displayed at all in my patch with of lot of
      errors in the console, even if its help file is always accessible
      (but with a blank area for the object) if you know where you have
      put this object for right clicking on it.<br>
      <br>
      - Some hot open issues among others already reported (@ico have
      reported much-much more)<br>
      . "Editmode" is not mentioned in the the windows tittle header
      (unlike in Pure Data Vanilla).<br>
      . "Zoom-Out shortcut" with a French AZERTY keyboard, Ctrl(+)- =
      Put -> [Dropdown] = so in fact Ctrl(+)6, which is very
      dangerous when French-speaking people are only using your project
      and are not programmers. And there is no warning at all that you
      have been switched to "Editmode".<br>
      I will have a look at the "pd_shortcuts.js" file you have
      suggested to see if QWERTY/AZERTY keyboards can be made compatible
      within the same file.<br>
      In the meantime, Ctrl(+)=, Ctrl(+)0 and Ctrl(+)9 are working as
      expected (with AZERTY kb).<br>
      . With "Editmode" = On, when an object is under either the
      horizontal or vertical scrolling bar a click at this place on the
      bars will unfortunately select the object-s under them for
      edition.<br>
      This bad behavior is leading to enormous and continuous design
      errors (known and unknown or known but much-much later when trying
      to understand what is going wrong with my projects.<br>
      . "Edit": Copy / Paste / Move (Shift(+)4 direction arrows) / Undo
      (e.g. when object-s connected to GOP) / Duplicate are still a
      nightmare (e.g. time needed up to few 10th of minutes for Paste or
      Move and reliability issues) when doing them with a lot of
      objects.<br>
      See @ico issues for more details.<br>
      <br>
      @All<br>
      Question: I'm still searching to find an easy and straight forward
      way to simply save onto disk a sub-patch (mainly for big ones)
      included in a bigger patch as a separate patch.pd, but not by
      using Select All, Copy the entire sub-patch, create a New patch,
      Paste the sub-patch into it, Move as necessary and then Save this
      new patch.pd.<br>
      It is not only due to the several operations you have to do but
      mainly to the "Edit" issues mentioned above.<br>
      Any clever idea for doing this directly from within the concerned
      sub-patch?</p>
    <div class="moz-signature">Thanks again,<br>
      - - - - - - - - - -<br>
      Best,<br>
      <b>Joseph Gastelais aka </b><b><span class="text-nowrap
          author-username"><a href="https://git.purrdata.net/Joseph"
            class="author-username-link"><span
              class="note-headline-light">@Joseph</span></a> </span><span
          class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span
            class="system-note-message"></span><a
            href="https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/-/issues/574#note_6401"
            class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time
              title="Feb 5, 2020 7:30pm GMT+0100" class=""></time></a></span>
        / Joe Linux</b><br>
      Web site: <a href="http://www.linuxrouen.fr/wp/">LINUX ROUEN
        Normandie</a><br>
      - - - - - - - - - -<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 09/06/2020 à 02:21, Albert Graef a
      écrit :<br>
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cite="mid:CA+rUic1NgR62bDjPjoEUBUcvWg3YsaeNAv7tfjKkExcXuUoB=g@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="ltr">All done and dusted, new packages for Arch,
        Debian/Raspbian/Ubuntu and openSUSE are now available at <a
href="https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=purr-data&project=home%3Aaggraef"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=purr-data&project=home%3Aaggraef</a>.<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 6:12 PM
          Ivica Bukvic <<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu"
            moz-do-not-send="true">ico@vt.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="auto">Thank you, Albert, and no rush. It would be
            great if this could be automated.<br>
            <br>
            <div>Best,<br>
              Ico<br>
              -- <br>
              Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br>
              Director, Creativity + Innovation<br>
              Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology<br>
              <br>
              Virginia Tech<br>
              Creative Technologies in Music<br>
              School of Performing Arts – 0141<br>
              Blacksburg, VA 24061<br>
              (540) 231-6139<br>
              <a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">ico@vt.edu</a><br>
              <br>
              <a href="http://www.icat.vt.edu" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">www.icat.vt.edu</a><br>
              <a href="http://www.performingarts.vt.edu" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">www.performingarts.vt.edu</a><br>
              <a href="http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">l2ork.icat.vt.edu</a><br>
              <a href="http://ico.bukvic.net" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">ico.bukvic.net</a></div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 11:32
              Albert Graef <<a href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">aggraef@gmail.com</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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                <div>Hi Ico,</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>I've been busy with other things today, but it's on
                  my TODO list, give it 1-2 days...</div>
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                <div>Albert<br>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at
                  6:19 PM Ivica Ico Bukvic <<a
                    href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" rel="noreferrer"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ico@vt.edu</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                  0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                  rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Albert,<br>
                  <br>
                  How soon can we expect the 2.11 appearing in the Linux
                  repos here:<br>
                  <br>
                  <a
href="https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=purr-data&project=home%3Aaggraef"
                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=purr-data&project=home%3Aaggraef</a><br>
                  <br>
                  Best,<br>
                  Ico<br>
                  -- <br>
                  Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br>
                  Director, Creativity + Innovation<br>
                  Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology<br>
                  <br>
                  Virginia Tech<br>
                  Creative Technologies in Music<br>
                  School of Performing Arts – 0141<br>
                  Blacksburg, VA 24061<br>
                  (540) 231-6139<br>
                  <a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" rel="noreferrer"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ico@vt.edu</a><br>
                  <br>
                  <a href="http://www.icat.vt.edu" rel="noreferrer
                    noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.icat.vt.edu</a><br>
                  <a href="http://www.performingarts.vt.edu"
                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">www.performingarts.vt.edu</a><br>
                  <a href="http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu" rel="noreferrer
                    noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">l2ork.icat.vt.edu</a><br>
                  <a href="http://ico.bukvic.net" rel="noreferrer
                    noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ico.bukvic.net</a><br>
                  <br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">Dr. Albert Gr"af<br>
                          Computer Music Research Group, JGU Mainz,
                          Germany<br>
                          Email: <a href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com"
                            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">aggraef@gmail.com</a>,
                          web: <a href="https://agraef.github.io/"
                            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://agraef.github.io/</a></div>
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                <div dir="ltr">Dr. Albert Gr"af<br>
                  Computer Music Research Group, JGU Mainz, Germany<br>
                  Email: <a href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">aggraef@gmail.com</a>,
                  web: <a href="https://agraef.github.io/"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://agraef.github.io/</a></div>
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