<div dir="auto">There are many benefits to using it but it is also a matter of personal preference. For instance, infinite undo, system-wide presets, node webkit SVG-based canvas as opposed to TCL/TK, K12 learning module, expanded data structures, most of extended externals, and many more. I suggest trying it out as that may give you a much better idea than anything I, or anyone else tells you. It should install cleanly alongside vanilla. Hope this helps.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br>-- <br>Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br>Creative Technologies in Music<br>Director -- DISIS, L2Ork, CTM<br>ICAT Senior Fellow<br>Virginia Tech<br>School of Performing Arts – 0141<br>Blacksburg, VA 24061<br>(540) 231-6139<br><a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a><br><a href="http://www.performingarts.vt.edu">www.performingarts.vt.edu</a><br><a href="http://disis.icat.vt.edu">disis.icat.vt.edu</a><br><a href="http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu">l2ork.icat.vt.edu</a><br><a href="http://ico.bukvic.net">ico.bukvic.net</a></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 22, 2018 10:59, "William Raynovich" <<a href="mailto:raynovich@ameritech.net">raynovich@ameritech.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Matt,<br>
Thank you for your response, it is much appreciated.<br>
<br>
Matt, you referred to Purr Data. I am assuming that this group is for Purr Data predominantly.<br>
<br>
I have been using pd-extended for years, moving to pd 0.48. What are the arguments for using Purr Data instead of regular Pure Data?<br>
<br>
Sorry if this is an inane question,<br>
William<br>
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> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 21:07:17 -0600<br>
> From: William Raynovich <<a href="mailto:raynovich@ameritech.net">raynovich@ameritech.net</a>><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:l2ork-dev@disis.music.vt.edu">l2ork-dev@disis.music.vt.edu</a><br>
> Subject: [L2Ork-dev] pvu~ question<br>
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> Hello all,<br>
> I have been using your objects in pd-external for some time now. The work is going well. Thank you for all that you are doing for the Pure data Community.<br>
><br>
> I have run into a problem that I have not been able to rectify. I need to start using Pure Data 0.48-0. I have gotten most of the objects working. The only one now that that seems to give me problems is pvu~. The object appears in Extended, but not in 0.48. I have uploaded the external iemlab. I think pvu~ is in iemlab1?<br>
><br>
> I am using an Apple laptop. Any ideas why I cannot get pvu~ to work?<br>
><br>
> I would be grateful for any advice,<br>
> William<br>
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> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 03:12:26 +0000 (UTC)<br>
> From: Jonathan Wilkes <<a href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> To: "<a href="mailto:l2ork-dev@disis.music.vt.edu">l2ork-dev@disis.music.vt.edu</a>" <<a href="mailto:l2ork-dev@disis.music.vt.edu">l2ork-dev@disis.music.vt.edu</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [L2Ork-dev] pvu~ question<br>
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>> Hello all,<br>
><br>
>> I have been using your objects in pd-external for some time now. The work is going well. Thank you for all that you are doing for the Pure data Community.<br>
><br>
><br>
>> I have run into a problem that I have not been able to rectify. I need to start using Pure Data 0.48-0. I have gotten most of the objects working. The only one now that that seems to give me problems is pvu~. The object appears in Extended, but not in 0.48. I have uploaded the external iemlab. I think pvu~ is in iemlab1?<br>
><br>
><br>
>> I am using an Apple laptop. Any ideas why I cannot get pvu~ to work?<br>
><br>
><br>
> Works fine for me in Purr Data 2.4.7 on an armbook.<br>
><br>
> -Jonathan<br>
><br>
>> I would be grateful for any advice,<br>
><br>
>> William<br>
><br>
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> Message: 3<br>
> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 22:24:33 -0500<br>
> From: Jonathan Wilkes <<a href="mailto:jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com">jon.w.wilkes@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: l2ork-dev <<a href="mailto:l2ork-dev@disis.music.vt.edu">l2ork-dev@disis.music.vt.edu</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [L2Ork-dev] pvu~ question<br>
> Message-ID:<br>
> <CAOA7yC6F6hq=ihr=OijTECW7O-w=<wbr>=<a href="mailto:yUk2dSnUfQQGy0QXhegGQ@mail.gmail.com">yUk2dSnUfQQGy0QXhegGQ@mail.<wbr>gmail.com</a>><br>
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> Hi William,<br>
> I already replied from my other email address but forgot that it<br>
> sometimes doesn't go through.<br>
><br>
> Are you using a recent version of Purr Data? It's unclear from your<br>
> message, and sounds like<br>
> you are talking about Pd-extended which was abandoned awhile back.<br>
><br>
> In any case, [pvu~] seems to work fine for me in Purr Data 2.4.7 on an<br>
> armbook under Debian.<br>
><br>
> -Jonathan<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 10:07 PM, William Raynovich<br>
> <<a href="mailto:raynovich@ameritech.net">raynovich@ameritech.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Hello all,<br>
>> I have been using your objects in pd-external for some time now. The work is going well. Thank you for all that you are doing for the Pure data Community.<br>
>><br>
>> I have run into a problem that I have not been able to rectify. I need to start using Pure Data 0.48-0. I have gotten most of the objects working. The only one now that that seems to give me problems is pvu~. The object appears in Extended, but not in 0.48. I have uploaded the external iemlab. I think pvu~ is in iemlab1?<br>
>><br>
>> I am using an Apple laptop. Any ideas why I cannot get pvu~ to work?<br>
>><br>
>> I would be grateful for any advice,<br>
>> William<br>
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> To: <a href="mailto:l2ork-dev@disis.music.vt.edu">l2ork-dev@disis.music.vt.edu</a><br>
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> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 10:07 PM, William Raynovich <<a href="mailto:raynovich@ameritech.net">raynovich@ameritech.net</a><br>
>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hello all,<br>
>> I have been using your objects in pd-external for some time now. The work<br>
>> is going well. Thank you for all that you are doing for the Pure data<br>
>> Community.<br>
>><br>
>> I have run into a problem that I have not been able to rectify. I need to<br>
>> start using Pure Data 0.48-0. I have gotten most of the objects working.<br>
>> The only one now that that seems to give me problems is pvu~. The object<br>
>> appears in Extended, but not in 0.48. I have uploaded the external<br>
>> iemlab. I think pvu~ is in iemlab1?<br>
>><br>
>> I am using an Apple laptop. Any ideas why I cannot get pvu~ to work?<br>
>><br>
>> I would be grateful for any advice,<br>
>> William<br>
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