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    That part is something Jonathan developed and we were in a holding
    pattern to figure out a few other things. For instance, should we
    save this with the rest of the settings? If so, this would mean also
    overriding general settings by saving another user.settings file in
    your ~/.pd-l2ork file that also overrides other default values. My
    vote would be creating a separate user.theme file in the ~/.pd-l2ork
    folder. Thoughts?<br>
    <br>
    Once we figure this out, saving this will be relatively trivial.<br>
    <br>
    Best,<br>
    <br>
    Ico<br>
    <br>
    P.S. Copying Jonathan, in case he is not on the l2ork-dev list (in
    which case we should all criticize him until he feels bad :-).<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/2014 7:42 PM, Gilberto
      Agostinho wrote:<br>
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      Hi Ico,<br>
      <br>
      It installs perfectly well here on my Linux Mint 17, and I did
      some quick tests with some patchs of mine and with some extra
      objects and all seems to be well. Also, the folder
      pd-l2ork-externals is not being automatically created and
      modifications to the path via the GUI are being saved now, thanks
      for fixing both! <br>
      <br>
      But here is one little bug: if I change my colour scheme preset in
      the Preferences/GUI menu, this change is not saved and resets back
      to the default L2Ork scheme on the next run. Also, modifications
      of single colours in a colour scheme are not saved for the next
      run either (and since you allow the user to set the colors
      manually, it would be great to be able to save this user preset as
      well).<br>
      <br>
      Thanks for all the good work and take care,<br>
      Gilberto<br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/11/14 01:17, Ivica Ico Bukvic
        wrote:<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">OK, just successfully build a new
          version. If everyone would please build their own or simply
          download latest version (20141110, 64-bit only at this point
          in time) from unadvertised repository at:<br>
          <br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/data/pd/">http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/data/pd/</a><br>
          <br>
          and report any lingering bugs/regressions. If we're all ok,
          then we'll release a new official version.<br>
          <br>
          Best,<br>
          <br>
          Ico<br>
          <br>
          On 11/10/2014 05:53 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:<br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Indeed--once again, thank you for
            the regression report. I just finished building a failed
            build and committed the said fix. Rebulding right now to
            make sure it builds properly.<br>
            <br>
            Best,<br>
            <br>
            Ico<br>
            <br>
            On 11/10/2014 05:33 PM, Albert Graef wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CA+rUic0gQ2D=SBwyJN6kmHfBb4LXXvUJ0BWcPn5bYfGyKzoo5Q@mail.gmail.com"
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              <div>Well, since your latest commits (specifically rev.
                839a46d), tar_em_up.sh is broken for me. Specifically,
                from a fresh checkout I'm getting this error after
                compilation is complete:<br>
                <br>
                install -p
                /home/ag/tmp/pd-l2ork/src/pd-l2ork/packages/linux_make/default.settings
/home/ag/tmp/pd-l2ork/src/pd-l2ork/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-l2ork<br>
                install: cannot stat
                ‘/home/ag/tmp/pd-l2ork/src/pd-l2ork/packages/linux_make/default.settings’:



                No such file or directory<br>
                <br>
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              Maybe you forgot to commit some files?<br>
              <div>
                <div><br>
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            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:17 PM,
                Ivica Bukvic <span dir="ltr"><<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ico@vt.edu"
                    target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                  <p dir="ltr">Forgot to mention, due to the nature of
                    the last couple of commits, if using the
                    tar_em_up.sh script, you will need to do a complete
                    rebuild to get rid of stale files that are not being
                    used anymore (-B or -F flags).</p>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 10, 2014 3:14 PM,
                    "Ivica Ico Bukvic" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>>



                    wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                        <div>Great catch, Albert! I just committed a
                          couple more fixes changing things as follows:<br>
                          <br>
                          All pd-l2ork-related user config is now stored
                          in the ~/.pd-l2ork folder. Inside it you will
                          find a user.settings file (which replaces the
                          obscure .pdl2ork that used to be in the ~/
                          folder), as well as xapian index (doc_index
                          folder). The default.pdl2ork has become
                          default.settings (it is by default located in
                          the /usr/lib/pd-l2ork folder and is also
                          linked from /etc/pd-l2ork).
                          ~/pd-l2ork-externals is still referenced as
                          one of the paths but I think this will go away
                          because it can cause problems down the road
                          because it is implied for new users and if
                          anyone creates this folder, they may end up
                          having conflicting externals and other issues.
                          For the time being let's keep it as-is.<br>
                          <br>
                          HTH<br>
                          <br>
                          Best,<br>
                          <br>
                          Ico
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                            <div class="h5"><br>
                              <br>
                              On 11/10/2014 05:45 AM, Albert Graef
                              wrote:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">There's one remaining issue
                                there: the help browser still wants to
                                create its index in pd-l2ork-externals
                                and just hangs there if that directory
                                doesn't exist.<br>
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                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 9,
                                  2014 at 3:55 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:ico@vt.edu"
                                      target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                      text="#000000"> OK, so the latest
                                      commit removes automatic creation
                                      of the externals folder but
                                      retains it as part of the path. I
                                      also fixed startup and path things
                                      not sticking which was actually a
                                      really dumb bug whereas anything
                                      longer than 1000 chars was
                                      ignored.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Best,<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Ico
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                                          <br>
                                          <div>On 11/8/2014 11:19 AM,
                                            Albert Graef wrote:<br>
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                                                <div class="gmail_quote">On


                                                  Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at
                                                  2:41 PM, Ivica Bukvic
                                                  <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>></span>
                                                  wrote:<br>
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                                                    feature was
                                                    inherited from the
                                                    original extended
                                                    version that
                                                    pd-l2ork was forked
                                                    from many years ago,
                                                    which is 0.42.6. As
                                                    a potential
                                                    compromise what we
                                                    might do is provide
                                                    a default path
                                                    without creating a
                                                    folder that looks
                                                    under the
                                                    old/current folder,
                                                    and then allow users
                                                    to customize that
                                                    path in their
                                                    settings file?
                                                    Thoughts?</blockquote>
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                                                good to me.<br
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                                                -- <br>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div dir="ltr">Dr.
                                                    Albert Gr"af<br>
                                                    Computer Music
                                                    Research Group, JGU
                                                    Mainz, Germany<br>
                                                    Email:  <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com" target="_blank">aggraef@gmail.com</a><br>
                                                    WWW:    <a
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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Associate Professor
Computer Music
ICAT Senior Fellow
DISIS, L2Ork
Virginia Tech
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
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                                  <div dir="ltr">Dr. Albert Gr"af<br>
                                    Computer Music Research Group, JGU
                                    Mainz, Germany<br>
                                    Email:  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">aggraef@gmail.com</a><br>
                                    WWW:    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="https://plus.google.com/+AlbertGraef"
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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Associate Professor
Computer Music
ICAT Senior Fellow
DISIS, L2Ork
Virginia Tech
School of Performing Arts - 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
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                <div dir="ltr">Dr. Albert Gr"af<br>
                  Computer Music Research Group, JGU Mainz, Germany<br>
                  Email:  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com" target="_blank">aggraef@gmail.com</a><br>
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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Associate Professor
Computer Music
ICAT Senior Fellow
DISIS, L2Ork
Virginia Tech
School of Performing Arts - 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Associate Professor
Computer Music
ICAT Senior Fellow
DISIS, L2Ork
Virginia Tech
School of Performing Arts - 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.performingarts.vt.edu">www.performingarts.vt.edu</a>
disis.music.vt.edu
l2ork.music.vt.edu</pre>
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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Associate Professor
Computer Music
ICAT Senior Fellow
DISIS, L2Ork
Virginia Tech
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.performingarts.vt.edu">www.performingarts.vt.edu</a>
disis.music.vt.edu
l2ork.music.vt.edu</pre>
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