<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span>I went ahead and commited some changes which make the gui preset choice persistent.  (Still no way to make individual color choices stick yet.)</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Seems to work ok, but please test.<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:
 normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>We were also talking about saving all the gui prefs from the Pd side, rather than through tcl.  (That way gui prefs would react to the -noprefs flag, which they don't atm.)</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>-Jonathan<br></span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family:
 HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, November 10, 2014 9:12 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico@vt.edu> wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3382161904"><div>
    Forgot to mention, any third-party objects are unaffected by this
    change as they have not yet been ported to a new way of displaying
    things... This will also keep you informed whether an object is
    updated to support accelerated displacement.<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    HTH<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    Best,<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    Ico<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    <div class="yiv3382161904moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/2014 9:09 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic
      wrote:<br clear="none">
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      That part is something Jonathan developed and we were in a holding
      pattern to figure out a few other things. For instance, should we
      save this with the rest of the settings? If so, this would mean
      also overriding general settings by saving another user.settings
      file in your ~/.pd-l2ork file that also overrides other default
      values. My vote would be creating a separate user.theme file in
      the ~/.pd-l2ork folder. Thoughts?<br clear="none">
      <br clear="none">
      Once we figure this out, saving this will be relatively trivial.<br clear="none">
      <br clear="none">
      Best,<br clear="none">
      <br clear="none">
      Ico<br clear="none">
      <br clear="none">
      P.S. Copying Jonathan, in case he is not on the l2ork-dev list (in
      which case we should all criticize him until he feels bad :-).<br clear="none">
      <br clear="none">
      <div class="yiv3382161904moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/2014 7:42 PM, Gilberto
        Agostinho wrote:<br clear="none">
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        Hi Ico,<br clear="none">
        <br clear="none">
        It installs perfectly well here on my Linux Mint 17, and I did
        some quick tests with some patchs of mine and with some extra
        objects and all seems to be well. Also, the folder
        pd-l2ork-externals is not being automatically created and
        modifications to the path via the GUI are being saved now,
        thanks for fixing both! <br clear="none">
        <br clear="none">
        But here is one little bug: if I change my colour scheme preset
        in the Preferences/GUI menu, this change is not saved and resets
        back to the default L2Ork scheme on the next run. Also,
        modifications of single colours in a colour scheme are not saved
        for the next run either (and since you allow the user to set the
        colors manually, it would be great to be able to save this user
        preset as well).<br clear="none">
        <br clear="none">
        Thanks for all the good work and take care,<br clear="none">
        Gilberto<br clear="none">
        <br clear="none">
        <div class="yiv3382161904moz-cite-prefix">On 11/11/14 01:17, Ivica Ico Bukvic
          wrote:<br clear="none">
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          </blockquote></div><div><div class="yiv3382161904moz-cite-prefix">OK, just successfully build a new
            version. If everyone would please build their own or simply
            download latest version (20141110, 64-bit only at this point
            in time) from unadvertised repository at:<br clear="none">
            <br clear="none">
            <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv3382161904moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/data/pd/">http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/data/pd/</a><br clear="none">
            <br clear="none">
            and report any lingering bugs/regressions. If we're all ok,
            then we'll release a new official version.<br clear="none">
            <br clear="none">
            Best,<br clear="none">
            <br clear="none">
            Ico<br clear="none">
            <br clear="none">
            On 11/10/2014 05:53 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:<br clear="none">
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            </blockquote></div><div><div class="yiv3382161904moz-cite-prefix">Indeed--once again, thank you
              for the regression report. I just finished building a
              failed build and committed the said fix. Rebulding right
              now to make sure it builds properly.<br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
              Best,<br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
              Ico<br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
              On 11/10/2014 05:33 PM, Albert Graef wrote:<br clear="none">
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                <div>Well, since your latest commits (specifically rev.
                  839a46d), tar_em_up.sh is broken for me. Specifically,
                  from a fresh checkout I'm getting this error after
                  compilation is complete:<br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  install -p
                  /home/ag/tmp/pd-l2ork/src/pd-l2ork/packages/linux_make/default.settings
/home/ag/tmp/pd-l2ork/src/pd-l2ork/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-l2ork<br clear="none">
                  install: cannot stat
                  ‘/home/ag/tmp/pd-l2ork/src/pd-l2ork/packages/linux_make/default.settings’:




                  No such file or directory<br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                </div>
                Maybe you forgot to commit some files?<br clear="none">
                <div>
                  <div><br clear="none">
                  </div>
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                <div class="yiv3382161904gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:17
                  PM, Ivica Bukvic <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
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                    <div dir="ltr">Forgot to mention, due to the nature of
                      the last couple of commits, if using the
                      tar_em_up.sh script, you will need to do a
                      complete rebuild to get rid of stale files that
                      are not being used anymore (-B or -F flags).</div>
                    <div class="yiv3382161904gmail_quote">On Nov 10, 2014 3:14 PM,
                      "Ivica Ico Bukvic" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a>>




                      wrote:<br clear="none">
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                        <div>
                          <div>Great catch, Albert! I just committed a
                            couple more fixes changing things as
                            follows:<br clear="none">
                            <br clear="none">
                            All pd-l2ork-related user config is now
                            stored in the ~/.pd-l2ork folder. Inside it
                            you will find a user.settings file (which
                            replaces the obscure .pdl2ork that used to
                            be in the ~/ folder), as well as xapian
                            index (doc_index folder). The
                            default.pdl2ork has become default.settings
                            (it is by default located in the
                            /usr/lib/pd-l2ork folder and is also linked
                            from /etc/pd-l2ork). ~/pd-l2ork-externals is
                            still referenced as one of the paths but I
                            think this will go away because it can cause
                            problems down the road because it is implied
                            for new users and if anyone creates this
                            folder, they may end up having conflicting
                            externals and other issues. For the time
                            being let's keep it as-is.<br clear="none">
                            <br clear="none">
                            HTH<br clear="none">
                            <br clear="none">
                            Best,<br clear="none">
                            <br clear="none">
                            Ico
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                                On 11/10/2014 05:45 AM, Albert Graef
                                wrote:<br clear="none">
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                            <div class="yiv3382161904h5">
                              <blockquote type="cite">
                                <div dir="ltr">There's one remaining
                                  issue there: the help browser still
                                  wants to create its index in
                                  pd-l2ork-externals and just hangs
                                  there if that directory doesn't exist.<br clear="none">
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                                <div class="yiv3382161904gmail_extra"><br clear="none">
                                  <div class="yiv3382161904gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov
                                    9, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic
                                    <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a>></span>
                                    wrote:<br clear="none">
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                                      <div> OK, so the
                                        latest commit removes automatic
                                        creation of the externals folder
                                        but retains it as part of the
                                        path. I also fixed startup and
                                        path things not sticking which
                                        was actually a really dumb bug
                                        whereas anything longer than
                                        1000 chars was ignored.<br clear="none">
                                        <br clear="none">
                                        Best,<br clear="none">
                                        <br clear="none">
                                        Ico
                                        <div>
                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                            <br clear="none">
                                            <div>On 11/8/2014 11:19 AM,
                                              Albert Graef wrote:<br clear="none">
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                                                <div class="yiv3382161904gmail_extra">
                                                  <div class="yiv3382161904gmail_quote">On



                                                    Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at
                                                    2:41 PM, Ivica
                                                    Bukvic <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a>></span>
                                                    wrote:<br clear="none">
                                                    <blockquote class="yiv3382161904gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">This




                                                      feature was
                                                      inherited from the
                                                      original extended
                                                      version that
                                                      pd-l2ork was
                                                      forked from many
                                                      years ago, which
                                                      is 0.42.6. As a
                                                      potential
                                                      compromise what we
                                                      might do is
                                                      provide a default
                                                      path without
                                                      creating a folder
                                                      that looks under
                                                      the old/current
                                                      folder, and then
                                                      allow users to
                                                      customize that
                                                      path in their
                                                      settings file?
                                                      Thoughts?</blockquote>
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                                                <div class="yiv3382161904gmail_extra">Sounds




                                                  good to me.<br clear="all">
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                                                  -- <br clear="none">
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                                                    <div dir="ltr">Dr.
                                                      Albert Gr"af<br clear="none">
                                                      Computer Music
                                                      Research Group,
                                                      JGU Mainz, Germany<br clear="none">
                                                      Email:  <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:aggraef@gmail.com">aggraef@gmail.com</a><br clear="none">
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Associate Professor
Computer Music
ICAT Senior Fellow
DISIS, L2Ork
Virginia Tech
School of Performing Arts – 0141
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                                    <div dir="ltr">Dr. Albert Gr"af<br clear="none">
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                                      Mainz, Germany<br clear="none">
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Associate Professor
Computer Music
ICAT Senior Fellow
DISIS, L2Ork
Virginia Tech
School of Performing Arts - 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Associate Professor
Computer Music
ICAT Senior Fellow
DISIS, L2Ork
Virginia Tech
School of Performing Arts - 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Associate Professor
Computer Music
ICAT Senior Fellow
DISIS, L2Ork
Virginia Tech
School of Performing Arts - 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Associate Professor
Computer Music
ICAT Senior Fellow
DISIS, L2Ork
Virginia Tech
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Associate Professor
Computer Music
ICAT Senior Fellow
DISIS, L2Ork
Virginia Tech
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
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