<div dir="ltr">BTW, I fixed positioning on the latest git when autopatching objects that have not yet been properly instantiated.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:09 AM, Gilberto Agostinho <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gilbertohasnofb@googlemail.com" target="_blank">gilbertohasnofb@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hi Ivica,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the reply. It is a pity the people from vanilla and
extended don't want to fix this bug due to legacy problems. Since
.pd files are text based, it would be trivial to create a conversion
tool for old patches and distribute it together with the main
program (that's how other projects, such as LilyPond, handles syntax
change). <br>
<br>
About the first bug report, I do know how to work around it, I just
wasn't sure you guys knew about its existence.<br>
<br>
Take care,<br>
Gilberto<br>
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<div>On 19/09/14 08:55, Ivica Bukvic wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">The iemgui object positioning was a conscious
decision to ensure objects autopatch and are positioned
properly. In other words in vanilla/extended they are not
positioned according to their xy position and this is a bug they
don't want to fix due to backwards compatibility. We are looking
possibly into creating a compatibility flag that would support
this buggy legacy behaviour but honestly it is not very high on
my priority list because preferred way would be vanilla and
extended fixing the problem which is clearly a bug.</p>
<p dir="ltr">As for the first bug report, this one is kind of
tricky because when you do ctrl+1 and type vsl, that object's
height is technically that of a default object and the
autopatching is attempted before vsl is fully instantiated and
its height properly set. Let me see if I can think of a way to
test this.</p>
<p dir="ltr">The most obvious solution is not to type vsl into the
object box and instead create vertical slider and other gui
objects using their keyboard shortcuts, e.g. for vsl (as shown
in the Put menu) you would type shift+ctrl+v.</p>
<p dir="ltr">HTH</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 19, 2014 9:39 AM, "Gilberto
Agostinho" <<a href="mailto:gilbertohasnofb@googlemail.com" target="_blank">gilbertohasnofb@googlemail.com</a>>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hello all,<br>
<br>
I discovered some problems with the placement of sliders due
to autopatch:<br>
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- Using only the keyboard to input a patck (autopatch), the
following sequence Ctrl+2, 64, Ctrl+1, vsl, Ctrl+3 results
into: <a href="http://s13.postimg.org/rgyspkdfr/image.png" target="_blank">http://s13.postimg.org/rgyspkdfr/image.png</a><br>
- but if one types: Ctrl+2, 64, Ctrl+1, vsl and now deselect
the [vsl] object and then select it again, and then type
Ctrl+3, we get the expected result: <a href="http://s27.postimg.org/y146zhcs3/image.png" target="_blank">http://s27.postimg.org/y146zhcs3/image.png</a><br>
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- The same is not true for [hsl], which outputs a beautiful
result straight away: <a href="http://s30.postimg.org/4pkzkopkh/image.png" target="_blank">http://s30.postimg.org/4pkzkopkh/image.png</a><br>
- The problem here is compatibility: pd-extended's [hsl] is
anchored to the left of pd-l2Ork one. Have a look on the
same file as above, but opened in pd-extended: <a href="http://s28.postimg.org/dkvm4fylp/image.png" target="_blank">http://s28.postimg.org/dkvm4fylp/image.png</a><br>
- This is probably because you tried to fix the odd
behaviour of pd-extended's autopath positioning of [hsl]. In
pd-extended, if we try Ctrl+2, 64, Ctrl+1, hsl, Ctrl+3, we
get: <a href="http://s7.postimg.org/b48zw71y3/image.png" target="_blank">http://s7.postimg.org/b48zw71y3/image.png</a><br>
- And similarly to the [vsl] case described above, if we try
Ctrl+2, 64, Ctrl+1, hsl, then deselect and select the [hsl]
object again before typing Ctrl+3, we get: <a href="http://s9.postimg.org/46vkft1xb/image.png" target="_blank">http://s9.postimg.org/46vkft1xb/image.png</a><br>
<br>
Ideally, the best way of solving this would be to correct
pd-extended (and vanilla as well if it shows the same
behaviour), else the layout of patches will not be
completely compatible between both programs. Imagine someone
took a long time creating a pretty GUI with sliders, radios
and colored canvas in one program, just to open it in the
other one and finding the sliders out of place.<br>
<br>
Let me know if you wish me to do any more tests involving
this issue.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Gilberto
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