<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi there,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">lately I've been in a kind of parking position with Pd but today I made some experiments and it seems I got something. I tried to remake my "big patch" from scratch, adding abstractions one by one, and the feeling I got is that it's getting sluggish gradually. However, when I add [alpi_env] that's the moment when CPU goes 100% and the whole thing gets stuck there. alpi_env.pd is a slight modification of s-env.pd from an old version of s-abstractions. Note that opening alpi_env.pd directly doesn't trigger the problem, only embedding it in a parent patch. It used to work well until the time tkpath was introduced, but of course I don't know if the problem is related to tkpath or not.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Some other minor observations:<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">- when opening m32_mu100.pd, the vsliders update very slow when moved. This is only with sliders that are routed to tabwrite (thru some other objects), while an unconnected vslider updates lightning fast. And the symptom only occurs when the m32_mu100.pd is opened, not when operated as GOP in the parent patch.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra">- still in m32_mu100.pd, arrays are displayed as curves while they were saved as "display as points" (and are displayed as points in pd-extended).<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br>All the mentioned patches are still in the zip at <a href="http://ubuntuone.com/0RrKroD4ucd2iBVJaxnL78" target="_blank">http://ubuntuone.com/0RrKroD4ucd2iBVJaxnL78</a><br><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Thanks,<br>
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András<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Andras,<br>
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Just wanted to check if you made any progress on the ideas I
suggested in my last email (namely cutting a cluster of objects at
a time and seeing at what point the whole thing starts working
again and then tracing back at what point does the breakage
occur).<div><div><br>
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On 10/21/2013 02:51 PM, András Murányi wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">I
haven’t forgotten about your request—it is still
on my TODO list. It is just that here at Virginia
Tech we’re less than 2 weeks away from a grand
opening of a new $100M building that will house
(among other things) Institute I am heavily
involved in.</span></p>
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<div>Congrats!<br>
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As a result, I’ve been rather busy with other
things. Rest assured, I will try to look into this
asap. In the meantime, what would be very helpful
is if you would please generate a list of all
objects in the patch so that we can possibly
narrow down where the problem stems from. What
you’ve started doing (removing tof and mixed
objects) is a great start. I have a nagging
suspicion something in that patch trips up the GUI
and sends an illegal command that makes GUI
unresponsive. Finding out what that is will
greatly help in identifying the solution. I would
go as far as renaming the extra/ folder and seeing
if that fixes things. If it does, then it is
definitely one of the 3<sup>rd</sup> party
externals.</span></p>
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<div>I guess I could generate a list of objects from the
source files using some sed/awk wizardry, but
unfortunately I'm not that good at it so I'll postpone
this until it eventually seems unavoidable.<br>
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<div>I have, though, renamed the whole extra/ folder and
tried to open the patch once again. Minutes and minutes of
100% CPU (alternating between cores) without an ending,
that is the result. It seems to me I just have too many
objects for the current SVG implementation.<br>
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latter part of November rolls around, I should
have a bit more time to look into this. Hope this
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<div>Thanks,<br>
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András<br>
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wishes,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Ico</span></p>
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<a href="mailto:l2ork-dev-bounces@disis.music.vt.edu" target="_blank">l2ork-dev-bounces@disis.music.vt.edu</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>András Murányi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2013 9:38
AM<br>
<b>To:</b> L2Ork developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [L2Ork-dev] Big patch takes
forever to load</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm very
interested in the recent
developments involving tkzync and I
can't wait to see pd-l2ork in its
full zoomable, opengl glory!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The recent
introduction of SVG drawing of object,
however, posed a huge problem for me:
my big patch (already posted here, <a href="http://ubuntuone.com/0RrKroD4ucd2iBVJaxnL78" target="_blank">http://ubuntuone.com/0RrKroD4ucd2iBVJaxnL78</a>)
just never finishes to load. This
means I cannot play music unless I
revert to an older version of
pd-l2ork.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">While originally I
thought that the problem was caused by
unaccelerated objects, removing them (by
renaming the extra/tof and extra/miXed
folders) doesn't seem to solve anything.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">So at this
point I'm asking for your kind advice. I
would like to make use of recent pd-l2ork
developments but I'm blocked by the speed
drop that came with SVG rendering (I
guess).</p>
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Composition, Music Technology
Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra
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