[L2Ork-dev] snap-to-grid

[Albert Graef]

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 11:26 PM Jonathan Wilkes <jon.w.wilkes at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Btw-- ran into a weirdo bug testing this. Sometimes I can drag an object
>> outside the window bounds (as you should be able to do). Other times the
>> object stops at the edge of the window and cannot be dragged any further.
>> Same with or without snap-to-grid, so I'm not sure what the problem is
>> there.
>>
>
Not sure, but I seem to recall a recent merge request from Ico which deals
with some related issue?

Also, I think we need a different editmode background when snap-to-grid
> isn't activated. Maybe a more sparse grid, less opacity, or something like
> that?
>

Yep, sounds good to me!

Albert


>
>> -Jonathan
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 8:59 PM Jonathan Wilkes <jon.w.wilkes at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 8:35 AM Mario Sottile - Marionetas Mey <
>>>> mariomey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It wouldn't be a problem *if* there were clear visual evidence that the
>>>>> objects are indeed connected. Without the GUI offering that clear
>>>>> evidence, I don't think it's a good idea. For example, if the user runs
>>>>> into a really difficult bug, it requires *moving* those objects around or
>>>>> clicking "Tidy up" to confirm the connections.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I have seen stacked objects where it turned out one of the objects
>>>>> wasn't connected. It is similar to perfectly horizontal wires connecting
>>>>> objects-- I've seen a Pd Vanilla patch where the connection crosses
>>>>> over the inlet of an object that wasn't actually connected. The curved
>>>>> wires in Pd-l2ork/Purr Data help somewhat with that, but it should still
>>>>> be avoided IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Curved wires gives us a solution! (joke)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Honestly, it's not out of the question to make a special case for when
>>>> the out coordinates match the in coordinates. :)
>>>>
>>>> Attached is a prototype of the "snap to grid" feature. (The default
>>>> output format was mkv-- let me know if you can't read it.)
>>>>
>>>> You can see when I try to position the object at (0, 0) why inkscape
>>>> allows free displacement between the gridelines. Otherwise, the user loses
>>>> responsiveness when trying to "park" the object at a given snap position.
>>>>
>>>> However, it still seems quite usable without that feature. So if there
>>>> aren't any objects I'll go ahead and turn the prototype into a merge
>>>> request.
>>>>
>>>> Also note: the editmode grid is offset by five pixels. Now that we have
>>>> snapping, I *think* users will want to align the snap points to the
>>>> gridlines. So I'll need to change the grid line placement.
>>>>
>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You are right. Snap to objects is, for the moment, a bad idea.
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