[L2Ork-dev] disis_munger~ in last purr-data release?

[Albert Graef]

I *think* that pyext is still supported, given that the latest commit in
https://github.com/grrrr/py is from May 10, 2017. The problem with Python
is that it drags in a bunch of dependencies of its own, including the
entire Python runtime environment. It's not a big problem per se, as Python
is readily available on all platforms we support, but it adds technical
debt and someone *will* have to integrate it *and* then support it in Purr
Data, on *all* supported platforms which includes Mac and Windows. And that
someone would presumably be *you*, or anyone else who needs this badly
enough so that s/he's willing to put in the effort. ;-)

Pd-Lua is much easier to support, as Lua is *designed* to be embedded. You
can just link to the static Lua library and be done with it, no further
runtime dependencies. In fact I got ready-to-use binaries over here (I've
already been using these in my courses last semester):
https://github.com/agraef/pd-lua. (Note that this is a fork of IOhannes'
Debian repo, I just did some minor touches for Lua 5.3 support and to make
the stuff build on Mac and Windows again).

Albert


On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 5:25 AM, Ivica Bukvic <ico at vt.edu> wrote:

> I did some stuff in pyext some 15 years (has it been that long already?)
> ago and found it rather nice. I have dabbled with it since. I also think it
> is a great opportunity to link computer science folks with the PD community
> since so many of them still rely on python. So I guess it is a question of
> inclusion if the system is stable and well supported. I would just as much
> like to have PD-lua included as well as other scripting languages.
>
>
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> On Mar 3, 2018 21:41, "Albert Graef" <aggraef at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 12:15 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <jon.w.wilkes at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Ico mentioned pyext but that's not currently getting built.
>>
>> Is anyone actually using that? Python would add quite a big
>> dependency. If we really wanted to add a scripting language to Purr
>> Data, there's pd-lua, which is much more light-weight, easier to build
>> and adds just a rather trivial build time dependency (if linked
>> statically).
>>
>> Anyway, I tried the latest flext source on Windows, and it builds in
>> msys2 (using the autoconf build system, i.e. ./bootstrap; ./configure;
>> make) but only produces static libraries there. That's all I can say
>> right now, I didn't yet try to build anything against it.
>>
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