[L2Ork-dev] L2Ork-dev Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2
Ivica Bukvic
ico at vt.edu
Thu Jul 7 11:44:09 UTC 2016
Please indicate what distribution you are using, is it 32 or 64 bit and if
you have any custom settings. By default you should be loading the gem
library and this should be indicated in your console. If it doesn't, that
means you may have altered the default preferences. You also need to
download the version that is compatible with your distribution. Gem library
is particularly finicky when it comes to linking against specific
distribution libraries down to individual versions. So, if you are using
Ubuntu 14.04 you need to download version that has been built specifically
for 14.04. If there's no version available for your specific version, you
will need to build one from the scratch. This may sound intimidating but is
actually quite easy, although it may be somewhat time-consuming depending
how fast is your computer. Hope this helps.
Best,
--
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Associate Professor
Computer Music
ICAT Senior Fellow
Director -- DISIS, L2Ork
Virginia Tech
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
ico at vt.edu
www.performingarts.vt.edu
disis.icat.vt.edu
l2ork.icat.vt.edu
ico.bukvic.net
On Jul 7, 2016 21:36, "Marcelo Carneiro de Lima" <marcelo.arcos2 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi. I reinstalled PD L2Ork (64 bit deb ubuntu Burrito Supreme) and GEM
> still does not work.
> Below I printed the Console report (I don't know if it helps).
> Also I am attaching a screenshot with PD L2Ork opened and its console.
> Thank you
> Best Regards
> Marcelo
>
> GLdefine GL_LINEAR
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_EXP
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_EXP2
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_STENCIL_BUFFER_BIT
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_PROJECTION
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglViewport 0 0 500 500
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglDisable GL_FOG
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglEnable GL_FOG
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglFogf
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_FOG_DENSITY
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglFogf
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_FOG_MODE
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglFogf
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_FOG_START
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglFogf
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_FOG_END
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglFogfv
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_FOG_COLOR
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglDisable GL_COLOR_MATERIAL
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglDisable GL_AUTO_NORMAL
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglDisable GL_NORMALIZE
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglShadeModel GL_FLAT
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLightModeli
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_LIGHT_MODEL_TWO_SIDE
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_FALSE
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLightModeli
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_LIGHT_MODEL_TWO_SIDE
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_TRUE
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglEnable GL_LIGHTING
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglEnable GL_COLOR_MATERIAL
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglEnable GL_AUTO_NORMAL
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglEnable GL_NORMALIZE
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglShadeModel GL_SMOOTH
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_AMBIENT 0.1 0.1 0.1 1
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_SPECULAR 1 1 1 1
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_SHININESS 100
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglDisable GL_LIGHTING
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglClearColor
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglClear 17664
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglDisable GL_LIGHTING
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglViewport 0 0 500 500
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_PROJECTION
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLineWidth 2
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglColor3f 1 1 1
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglBegin GL_LINES
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglVertex2f 0 -6
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglVertex2f 0 6
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglEnd
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLineWidth 1
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_PROJECTION
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglViewport 0 0 250 500
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_PROJECTION
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglViewport 0 0 250 500
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> gemlist
> ... couldn't create
> gemlist
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglGetFloatv GL_STEREO
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglColorMask 1 1 1 1
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglColorMask 1 1 1 1
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglColorMask 1 1 1 1
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglClear
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglClear
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglClear
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglClear
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_STENCIL_BUFFER_BIT
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_ACCUM_BUFFER_BIT
> ... couldn't create
> gemlist
> ... couldn't create
> gemlist
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglColorMask 1 1 1 1
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_PROJECTION
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_PROJECTION
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglLoadIdentity
> ... couldn't create
> GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglDrawBuffer GL_BACK_LEFT
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglClear
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglDrawBuffer GL_BACK_RIGHT
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglClear
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglClear
> ... couldn't create
> GLdefine GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT
> ... couldn't create
> gemlist
> ... couldn't create
> gemlist
> ... couldn't create
> GEMglReportError
> ... couldn't create
> gemlist
> ... couldn't create
>
> 2016-07-05 3:17 GMT-03:00 <l2ork-dev-request at disis.music.vt.edu>:
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>> 4. Re: Failing to complete install GEM (Ivica Bukvic)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 20:24:22 -0300
>> From: Marcelo Carneiro de Lima <marcelo.arcos2 at gmail.com>
>> To: l2ork-dev at disis.music.vt.edu
>> Subject: [L2Ork-dev] Failing to complete install GEM
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAJdLtOwiXnZT6AqoBnPpr+dJAOd5OCa0Q5fyJ_wP8P5_=-
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>>
>> Hi,
>> My name is Marcelo Carneiro. I have been using Ubuntu Studio for 6 months
>> now and just started with PD L2Ork. Today I started to struggle with GEM
>> installation for it, but no success at all. I have PD extended also
>> installed on my computer, and GEM works fine.
>> I have checked out informations concerning this problem, followed some
>> tips, but it persists. When I put [gemwin] object it shows up, but no
>> [gemlist] and others.
>> Can anyone help me with this?
>> Thanks.
>> Best Regards
>> Marcelo
>>
>> --
>> *Marcelo Carneiro*
>> (21) 9382-3621
>> (21) 3497-0193
>> Skype: Carneiro3729
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 19:55:28 -0400
>> From: Ivica Bukvic <ico at vt.edu>
>> To: "An open mailing list for a world-wide network of aspiring
>> L2Orkists, L2Ork developers contributors, and supporters."
>> <l2ork-dev at disis.music.vt.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [L2Ork-dev] Failing to complete install GEM
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> You need a deb for your version of Ubuntu. The ones available online
>> indicate what version they are meant for. I believe Albert has a launchpad
>> account where he has builds for multiple platforms, so you can investigate
>> that or alternately build one yourself. Hope this helps.
>>
>> --
>> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
>> Associate Professor
>> Computer Music
>> ICAT Senior Fellow
>> Director -- DISIS, L2Ork
>> Virginia Tech
>> School of Performing Arts ? 0141
>> Blacksburg, VA 24061
>> (540) 231-6139
>> ico at vt.edu
>> www.performingarts.vt.edu
>> disis.icat.vt.edu
>> l2ork.icat.vt.edu
>> ico.bukvic.net
>> On Jul 5, 2016 09:24, "Marcelo Carneiro de Lima" <
>> marcelo.arcos2 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> > My name is Marcelo Carneiro. I have been using Ubuntu Studio for 6
>> months
>> > now and just started with PD L2Ork. Today I started to struggle with GEM
>> > installation for it, but no success at all. I have PD extended also
>> > installed on my computer, and GEM works fine.
>> > I have checked out informations concerning this problem, followed some
>> > tips, but it persists. When I put [gemwin] object it shows up, but no
>> > [gemlist] and others.
>> > Can anyone help me with this?
>> > Thanks.
>> > Best Regards
>> > Marcelo
>> >
>> > --
>> > *Marcelo Carneiro*
>> > (21) 9382-3621
>> > (21) 3497-0193
>> > Skype: Carneiro3729
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > L2Ork-dev mailing list
>> > L2Ork-dev at disis.music.vt.edu
>> > http://disis.music.vt.edu/listinfo/l2ork-dev
>> >
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>> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 08:01:46 +0200
>> From: Albert Graef <aggraef at gmail.com>
>> To: l2ork-dev at disis.music.vt.edu
>> Subject: Re: [L2Ork-dev] Failing to complete install GEM
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> I currently have builds for Xenial (Ubuntu 16.04) and Trusty (14.04). I
>> can
>> do other Ubuntu versions > 14.04 if needed, but if you're running the
>> latest Ubuntu Studio (16.04) then the following PPA should have what you
>> need:
>>
>> https://launchpad.net/~dr-graef/+archive/ubuntu/pd-l2ork.xenial
>>
>> Please follow that link for instructions.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 1:55 AM, Ivica Bukvic <ico at vt.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > You need a deb for your version of Ubuntu. The ones available online
>> > indicate what version they are meant for. I believe Albert has a
>> launchpad
>> > account where he has builds for multiple platforms, so you can
>> investigate
>> > that or alternately build one yourself. Hope this helps.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
>> > Associate Professor
>> > Computer Music
>> > ICAT Senior Fellow
>> > Director -- DISIS, L2Ork
>> > Virginia Tech
>> > School of Performing Arts ? 0141
>> > Blacksburg, VA 24061
>> > (540) 231-6139
>> > ico at vt.edu
>> > www.performingarts.vt.edu
>> > disis.icat.vt.edu
>> > l2ork.icat.vt.edu
>> > ico.bukvic.net
>> > On Jul 5, 2016 09:24, "Marcelo Carneiro de Lima" <
>> marcelo.arcos2 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >> My name is Marcelo Carneiro. I have been using Ubuntu Studio for 6
>> months
>> >> now and just started with PD L2Ork. Today I started to struggle with
>> GEM
>> >> installation for it, but no success at all. I have PD extended also
>> >> installed on my computer, and GEM works fine.
>> >> I have checked out informations concerning this problem, followed some
>> >> tips, but it persists. When I put [gemwin] object it shows up, but no
>> >> [gemlist] and others.
>> >> Can anyone help me with this?
>> >> Thanks.
>> >> Best Regards
>> >> Marcelo
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> *Marcelo Carneiro*
>> >> (21) 9382-3621
>> >> (21) 3497-0193
>> >> Skype: Carneiro3729
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> L2Ork-dev mailing list
>> >> L2Ork-dev at disis.music.vt.edu
>> >> http://disis.music.vt.edu/listinfo/l2ork-dev
>> >>
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > L2Ork-dev at disis.music.vt.edu
>> > http://disis.music.vt.edu/listinfo/l2ork-dev
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Albert Gr"af
>> Computer Music Research Group, JGU Mainz, Germany
>> Email: aggraef at gmail.com
>> WWW: https://plus.google.com/+AlbertGraef
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 02:16:49 -0400
>> From: Ivica Bukvic <ico at vt.edu>
>> To: "An open mailing list for a world-wide network of aspiring
>> L2Orkists, L2Ork developers contributors, and supporters."
>> <l2ork-dev at disis.music.vt.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [L2Ork-dev] Failing to complete install GEM
>> Message-ID:
>> <
>> CAJrgGbZg0xZK3L+AdtMz0X-vSdy1ZFUochsWb-R2cJwu0MRAcQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Thank you, Albert. Do you have both 32-bit and 64-bit builds? If so,
>> should
>> I discontinue posting builds on the site and simply start using your repo
>> instead?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> --
>> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
>> Associate Professor
>> Computer Music
>> ICAT Senior Fellow
>> Director -- DISIS, L2Ork
>> Virginia Tech
>> School of Performing Arts ? 0141
>> Blacksburg, VA 24061
>> (540) 231-6139
>> ico at vt.edu
>> www.performingarts.vt.edu
>> disis.icat.vt.edu
>> l2ork.icat.vt.edu
>> ico.bukvic.net
>> On Jul 5, 2016 16:02, "Albert Graef" <aggraef at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I currently have builds for Xenial (Ubuntu 16.04) and Trusty (14.04). I
>> > can do other Ubuntu versions > 14.04 if needed, but if you're running
>> the
>> > latest Ubuntu Studio (16.04) then the following PPA should have what you
>> > need:
>> >
>> > https://launchpad.net/~dr-graef/+archive/ubuntu/pd-l2ork.xenial
>> >
>> > Please follow that link for instructions.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 1:55 AM, Ivica Bukvic <ico at vt.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> >> You need a deb for your version of Ubuntu. The ones available online
>> >> indicate what version they are meant for. I believe Albert has a
>> launchpad
>> >> account where he has builds for multiple platforms, so you can
>> investigate
>> >> that or alternately build one yourself. Hope this helps.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
>> >> Associate Professor
>> >> Computer Music
>> >> ICAT Senior Fellow
>> >> Director -- DISIS, L2Ork
>> >> Virginia Tech
>> >> School of Performing Arts ? 0141
>> >> Blacksburg, VA 24061
>> >> (540) 231-6139
>> >> ico at vt.edu
>> >> www.performingarts.vt.edu
>> >> disis.icat.vt.edu
>> >> l2ork.icat.vt.edu
>> >> ico.bukvic.net
>> >> On Jul 5, 2016 09:24, "Marcelo Carneiro de Lima" <
>> >> marcelo.arcos2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> My name is Marcelo Carneiro. I have been using Ubuntu Studio for 6
>> >>> months now and just started with PD L2Ork. Today I started to
>> struggle with
>> >>> GEM installation for it, but no success at all. I have PD extended
>> also
>> >>> installed on my computer, and GEM works fine.
>> >>> I have checked out informations concerning this problem, followed some
>> >>> tips, but it persists. When I put [gemwin] object it shows up, but no
>> >>> [gemlist] and others.
>> >>> Can anyone help me with this?
>> >>> Thanks.
>> >>> Best Regards
>> >>> Marcelo
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> *Marcelo Carneiro*
>> >>> (21) 9382-3621
>> >>> (21) 3497-0193
>> >>> Skype: Carneiro3729
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> L2Ork-dev mailing list
>> >>> L2Ork-dev at disis.music.vt.edu
>> >>> http://disis.music.vt.edu/listinfo/l2ork-dev
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> L2Ork-dev mailing list
>> >> L2Ork-dev at disis.music.vt.edu
>> >> http://disis.music.vt.edu/listinfo/l2ork-dev
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dr. Albert Gr"af
>> > Computer Music Research Group, JGU Mainz, Germany
>> > Email: aggraef at gmail.com
>> > WWW: https://plus.google.com/+AlbertGraef
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > L2Ork-dev mailing list
>> > L2Ork-dev at disis.music.vt.edu
>> > http://disis.music.vt.edu/listinfo/l2ork-dev
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