[L2Ork-dev] pd-l2ork-externals folder

[Gilberto Agostinho]

That sounds like a good compromise, Ivica. Also, I just realized that 
pd-extended does indeed create a invisible config file at ~/ just like 
pd-l2ork is doing, but it doesn't create any folders.

As for customizing the path in their setting file, that's great, but 
probably an even better solution would be to do so via the GUI. I think 
I already reported this, but currently I can't add a new folder to the 
path via "File" and "Path...", I have to manually edit my config file in 
a text editor. That is certainly a minor thing for me as I don't mind to 
do that myself, but I often see in the Pure Data forum how new users 
have difficulties installing externals and this issue would pose as one 
extra difficulty for them. Is this broken only for me or is it for everyone?

Thanks a lot and take care,
Gilberto

On 08/11/14 14:41, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
>
> This feature was inherited from the original extended version that 
> pd-l2ork was forked from many years ago, which is 0.42.6. As a 
> potential compromise what we might do is provide a default path 
> without creating a folder that looks under the old/current folder, and 
> then allow users to customize that path in their settings file? Thoughts?
>
> FWIW, personally I don't use this folder at all.
>
> On Nov 8, 2014 7:19 AM, "Gilberto Agostinho" 
> <gilbertohasnofb at googlemail.com 
> <mailto:gilbertohasnofb at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Albert,
>
>     On 08/11/14 08:14, Albert Graef wrote:
>>     So if this is adopted then pd-l2ork should still fall back to
>>     reading ~/.pdl2ork if there's no other config file.
>
>     I think this is a good idea, it should be simple enough to tell
>     pd-l2Ork to look for that file on the first load (and thus before
>     it will create the hidden folder for the first time), so old users
>     can have that file being copied to the new location.
>
>>     Also, I'm not sure whether it's such a great idea to hide away
>>     the ~/pdl2ork-externals folder. You don't hide your bin folder
>>     either, do you?
>
>     I don't hide my bin indeed, but think of this: if every program I
>     have installed on my computer would decide to create a visible
>     folder on my home, that place would be a mess (I don't even have
>     to imagine that, I can simply hit Ctrl+H and see how many things
>     are there!). It would be a mess to quickly find the folders that I
>     use all the time, such as Music, Document, etc., compared to
>     folders that I used once or twice in a lifetime, such as
>     ~/.mozilla, ~/.gimp-2.8, etc.. I remember how polluted was My
>     Documents folder when I was using Windows, since a lot of programs
>     were doing exactly what you proposes - and I really don't look
>     forward in having my system like that once again!
>
>>     One might discuss, though, whether it's necessary that pd-l2ork
>>     always creates that folder on startup if it doesn't exist.
>>     AFAICT, other Pd flavors don't do this.
>
>     That would be a more immediate solution, although I still think
>     the a hidden folder is the best way to go. Lastly, I can confirm
>     nor pd-extended nor vanilla pd do this.
>
>     Best,
>     Gilberto
>
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