[L2Ork-dev] L2Ork

Ivica Bukvic ico at vt.edu
Sat Feb 16 00:20:26 UTC 2013


Hmmm, I have no idea what might be the problem. The only thing I did not
test with pd-l2ork is ffado interfaces. Perhaps you need to specify
different number of channels if your ffado device has them? I remember
encountering problem like it many years ago but i also suspect this has
been fixed since...
On Feb 15, 2013 5:36 PM, "Johannes Treß" <mail at johannes-tress.de> wrote:

>  Yes, I copied the command directly into the terminal...
> I'm running the Interface with the newest ffado driver (self compiled) and
> it works quite well - with really low latency and I don't have any xruns at
> all with recording tasks, if the buffer size is not too small.
> Is there a way to get more information about the error via other commands?
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
> Am 15.02.2013 19:18, schrieb Ivica Bukvic:
>
> And you run pd-l2ork with flags that i sent you? Could it be a driver
> issue?
> On Feb 15, 2013 12:39 PM, "Johannes Treß" <mail at johannes-tress.de> wrote:
>
>>  Hey thank you once again!
>> You are completely right - it is not crashing at all. Sorry for using
>> wrong terms, my English isn't that good.
>> I do not really know if it is a problem with jack or with pd. Jack shows
>> no xruns at all, there is only this ongoing a/d/a sync error row in the
>> console. I tried to run a few patches simultaneously and it played back
>> everything. But these errors occur all the time. I ran Pd with buffer size
>> at 50 and 4096 frames (I use a Focusrite Pro 24). But as I said it doesn't
>> seem to have any effect which driver I choose in Pd. It starts counting the
>> errors when I open it up and it won't stop until I close the application.
>>
>> Yours
>>
>> Johannes
>>
>>
>> Am 15.02.2013 17:11, schrieb Ivica Ico Bukvic:
>>
>>  You need to subscribe to the list to be able to post to it…
>>
>>
>>
>> You must run with –rt flag. See the
>> /usr/share/applications/pd-l2ork.desktop file and here’s the start-up
>> sequence if you wish to use command line:
>>
>>
>>
>> pd-l2ork –rt –jack –audiobuf 5 –inchannels 2 –outchannels 2 –alsamidi
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not sure what you mean by it not being as stable. Is it crashing? If
>> so, you should report when and how. I am not currently aware of any crashes
>> with pd-l2ork. In L2Ork we keep pushing it to the very limits and we
>> haven’t had a single crash in over 6 months with over dozen users using it
>> twice a week for 2 hours.
>>
>>
>>
>> If by stable you are talking about xruns (A/D/A sync errors), you can
>> increase pd buffer size (with –audiobuf 50), as well as JACK buffer size
>> (when you start JACK). These have nothing to do with pd-l2ork but mainly
>> with how your system is set up.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Johannes Treß [mailto:johannes.tress at googlemail.com<johannes.tress at googlemail.com>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Johannes Treß
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2013 10:35 AM
>> *To:* Ivica Ico Bukvic
>> *Cc:* An open mailing list for a world-wide network of aspiring
>> L2Orkists, L2Ork developers, contributors, and supporters.
>> *Subject:* Re: L2Ork
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your quick reply Ico and Hello to the mailing list!
>> I tried to start pd with or withour -rt and it didn't change it's
>> behaviour. I'm running DreamStudio 64bit with Lowlatency Kernel 3.2.0.
>> I noticed that the following Error occurs, no matter which audio driver I
>> try to select ( *A/D/A sync *in an endless row see the report at the end
>> of this mail):
>> Strange is, that there is "normal" sounding audio output when using jack
>> but the whole app isn't stable as it was expected to be.
>> Can someone help me out?
>>
>> Thank you very much indeed!
>>
>> Johannes
>>
>>
>> import] $Revision: 1.2 $
>>     [import] is still in development, the interface could change!
>>     compiled against Pd-l2ork version 20130126
>> libdir loader 1.9
>>     compiled on Jan 26 2013 at 15:21:10
>>     compiled against Pd version 0.42.6.20130126
>> GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia
>> verbose( -1):GEM: ver: 0.93.git 305f6a6
>> verbose( -1):GEM: compiled: Jan 26 2013
>> verbose( -1):GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig
>> verbose( -1):GEM: Authors :    Mark Danks (original version)
>> verbose( -1):GEM:        Chris Clepper
>> verbose( -1):GEM:        Cyrille Henry
>> verbose( -1):GEM:        IOhannes m zmoelnig
>> verbose( -1):GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, James
>> Tittle, Hans-Christoph Steiner, et al.
>> verbose( -1):GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it:
>> verbose( -1):GEM:     homepage http://gem.iem.at/
>> verbose( -1):GEM:     bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/
>> verbose( -1):GEM:     mailing-list
>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/
>> verbose( 0):please add path to 'Gem-meta.pd' to your search-path!
>> verbose( -1):GEM: compiled for MMX/SSE2 architecture
>> verbose( -1):GEM: using SSE2 optimization
>> verbose( -1):GEM: detected 4 CPUs
>> GEM: image loading support: magick SGI jpeg tiff
>> GEM: image saving support: jpeg magick tiff
>> libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'list-abs' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'maxlib' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'memento' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'mjlib' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'motex' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'oscx' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'pddp' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'pdogg' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'pixeltango' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'pmpd' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'rradical' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'sigpack' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'smlib' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'unauthorized' to the global objectclass path
>> vbap - v1.0.3.1 - 20 Nov 2010 - (c) Ville Pulkki 1999-2006 (Pd port by
>> HCS)
>> libdir_loader: added 'pan' to the global objectclass path
>> freeverb~ v1.2
>> libdir_loader: added 'hcs' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'jmmmp' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'ext13' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'ggee' to the global objectclass path
>> libdir_loader: added 'ekext' to the global objectclass path
>> PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.7-svn
>> pidip: can't load library
>> audio I/O error history:
>> seconds ago    error type
>>      1.37    A/D/A sync
>>      1.77    unknown
>>      1.77    unknown
>> audio I/O error history:
>> seconds ago    error type
>>      1.55    A/D/A sync
>>      1.95    unknown
>>      1.95    unknown
>> audio I/O error history:
>> seconds ago    error type
>>      1.68    A/D/A sync
>>      2.09    unknown
>>      2.09    unknown
>>
>>
>> Am 15.02.2013 14:52, schrieb Ivica Ico Bukvic:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would suggest using l2ork-dev mailing list for questions like this.
>>
>>
>>
>> See:
>>
>> http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=57
>>
>> http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=33
>>
>>
>>
>> As for your question, it is difficult to say where the problem lies. Did you
>>
>> start JACK with RT flag enabled? Is your computer running a lowlatency
>>
>> kernel? Do you have audio group with RT privileges? Did you start pd-l2ork
>>
>> using a shortcut from the menu rather than just typing pd-l2ork on the
>>
>> command line? I am sure I am missing questions that I haven't asked, but
>>
>> this should be a good start.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>>
>>
>> Ico
>>
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Johannes
>>
>>   Treß [mailto:johannes.tress at googlemail.com <johannes.tress at googlemail.com>] On Behalf Of
>>
>>  Johannes Treß
>>
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 5:18 AM
>>
>> To: ico at vt.edu
>>
>> Subject: L2Ork
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Ivica Ico,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to install L2ork on Ubuntu 12.04 with DreamStudio Distro and
>>
>> I'm getting permanently A/D/A Syncronisation errors when starting DSP. I
>>
>> couldn't find any mailing list or support pages, so I decided to email
>>
>> you directly. I hope you don't mind?
>>
>> Maybe you can help me with this Problem?
>>
>> I read about L2ork because I already had problems with Standard
>>
>> PD-extended (Freeze after DSP on/off). You recommended on the pd-
>>
>> Forum
>>
>> to try it with the version submitted on dr. Graefs ppa and so I did...
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much indeed!
>>
>>
>>
>> Johannes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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